Remember when Y2K was going to potentially end the world, but it didn’t thanks to experts working 'round the clock?
Remember when corporations turned around and got pissy because Y2K was successfully avoided, claiming that it was all a big hoax?
Remember how it’s now taught in some places that Y2K was a hoax and you can’t trust experts?
No wonder the world struggled with COVID.
The reason Y2K wasn’t a big deal was through the efforts of software developers and the only recognition they got was the movie Office Space.
Office space is great, to be fair
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I can see the same thing happening with climate change; say we successfully avert it, you’ll have all the lunatics on saying, “see?? There was nothing to worry about, we stressed and struggled for nothing!!1!”
Literally already done with the hole in the ozone layer
It’s too late to wish for that. We’ve already emitted too much, and didn’t slow enough in time to avert catastrophic climate change. We will likely live through it, but we’ll suffer. And those in poorer, hotter countries will die en masse. Wars will likely happen as refugees flee countries now made inhospitable. Fascism will rise as richer countries, more able to weather the storms, become insular and focus on domestic issues to the detriment of the aforementioned refugees. Perhaps revolutions will happen. Extreme heatwaves, hurricanes, tsunamis, will threaten coastal and tropical cities, and island nations in particular, but even cooler countries will be stricken with fatal heatwaves, just less often.
None of this is “if” we miss some target. We already missed it. It is already set in stone. We can only do our best to ensure it doesn’t get even worse than that. That’s still not the worst possible outcome.
That’s the one thing we can’t avert, only adapt to and mitigate. The time to avert was half a century earlier.
Damn we made the air breathable, the rivers clean and the animals happy for no reason
- Hot Saucerman ( @dingus@lemmy.ml ) English17•1 year ago
Are you ready to go through it again soon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
The year 2038 problem (also known as Y2038, Y2K38, Y2K38 superbug or the Epochalypse) is a time formatting bug in computer systems that represent times after the time 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038.
The problem exists in systems which measure Unix time – the number of seconds elapsed since the Unix epoch (00:00:00 UTC on 1 January 1970) – and store it in a signed 32-bit integer. The data type is only capable of representing integers between −(231) and 231 − 1, meaning the latest time that can be properly encoded is 231 − 1 seconds after epoch (03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038). Attempting to increment to the following second (03:14:08) will cause the integer to overflow, setting its value to −(231) which systems will interpret as 231 seconds before epoch (20:45:52 UTC on 13 December 1901). The problem is similar in nature to the year 2000 problem.
A lot of old PC hardware simply couldn’t scale to modern needs. On the plus side, things like virtualization and 64-bit architecture are helping solve issues like this.
We actually recently lived through some of the work arounds for Y2K causing issues again. Look up the Y2020 issue. A lot of the fixes for Y2K only pushed the problem out 20 years.
Afaik the Nintendo3DS also had 2038 as it’s max calendar year.
2 digit years can’t melt mainframe computers. (/s)
Ukrainian 90s babies living through the collapse of the USSR, decade of banditry and poverty, 2 revolutions, a plague, and the largest war since WW2 before they hit 30:
You forgot -
- Housing crisis which makes house impossible to afford.
- Rent crisis which makes event renting harder and gives owners freehand to increase rent however they like
- Global job scarcity
- Stagnation of income in sight of exploding inflation
True, but it has to be readable.
- Forest fires that turn the sky red
- Record rainfall and flooding
- Once in a millennium heatwaves
It depends on where you live of course
- being called millenials
🤝 90’s babies living through WW1, the Great Depression, and WW2 before they hit 50
They got a pandemic too. The “Spanish” flu hit right after ww1. AND they had their own antimaskers.
More like 80s babies, since we were actually old enough to remember those first two things
The 80’s were from 1985 to 1995.
Don’t forget about the mass extinctions
I visited the state I grew up in recently and had to drive a couple hours to visit someone down a highway I used to drive all the time in my teens. There used to be so many bugs that I’d have to stop and use the washers at the gas station at least once… this time there were maybe 2 or 3.
I was like oh. oh no.
I tell people all the time that the bugs are all gone. It is terrifying! Younger generations will never experience those swarms. It is so sad.
True…
Don’t go taking all the glory of living in a doomed world. Us 80’s babies are right there with you.
Imagine living through the Reagan administration and still having any hope left. I was too young to understand why, but even then I felt it draining from the world. And then Challenger exploded.
@CeruleanRuin We had no idea we were headed for our inevitable demise. I witnessed the Challenger explode when I was 4, one of my first memories. Red flag right out the gate.
But with work experience.
Though to be fair, I don’t really remember the world pre 9/11 as a ‘91 baby, so I don’t miss my freedom
I mean, ever since the second world war. We have always been at risk of a third.
Some say we won’t be rid of the threat of World War III until after the next world war.
So profound
Don’t forget you have Y2K38 coming up. Whereas Y2K was all about mainframes and old databases, Y2K38 will be older embedded equipment. Less impact if it goes bad, but there’s no way to predict everything it’ll affect.
Do 90s babies really remember Y2K and 9/11?
Trauma, unlike wealth, actually does trickle down. So even though kids don’t understsnd where it’s coming from, major traumatic events will affect them second-hand.
This. I don’t remember 9/11 for what it is, but I remember being antagonized as a child for being in the country while not being a white person.
I was Born '83 and remember chernobyl. Not that i would have known anything about it. But my parents ran out, hauled me inside and said no more playing outside. In retrospective that was quite disturbing it seems.
I remember them, but I was born early 1990, so I’m one of the early 90’s babies.
Has there actually been a better century in terms of comfort and stability for most people
Historically there would be many because the poor countries have the most people
Take China for example. A middle class person in China today lives like an upper class person compared to the 1700s. A poor person on average anywhere is doing way better than ever before…
Yes spending most of the day in a factory or a mine and rarely seeing sunlight is definitively like living as a blacksmith 300 years ago (I said blacksmith because it’s under upper class and I assume by middle class you mean office worker not middle income)
Being a farmer is much easier as well now because machines make the work 100x easier and you only have to do 1000x the amount.
Africa has certainly never had stability and the Inca/Mayans/Aztecs certainly had it worse than the rural folk of Central and South America
Remember all those old paintings of kids going through garbage to find things to sell? That’s certainly not a modern phenomenon
What about the people in winter climates that for a large portion couldn’t work in the winter? Yes they still did stuff but it wasn’t 40 hour weeks
I don’t think though… but quantity improved.
I’m banking on it so I don’t have a retirement fund.
If you fuckers fix everything you better have socialized retirement in the package.
Yes, that is why I don’t have a significant retirement fund. It’s all part of my plan. /s
I guess technically I “lived through” Y2K, in the same sense that I’ve lived through every other day of my life.
I mean, ww3 just isn’t gonna happen. Well, there’s a tiny possibility it might, but only in the sense that NATO fucks Russia. All it’d really take is air superiority. And NATO could achieve that in an extremely quick time. Might take a week, and it might take a day. But after that, there’s not much you can do. Russia launches 500 nukes? (That’s a very generous number). Either Russia receives back double that, or they get blown up before they can cause any “real” damage. That’s not saying they won’t cause damage, but chamces are, theres ways to intercept it.
I’m not a big fan of American governments. But I do have to admit, whilst they’re actual army personal may not be as good as some lather countries, there’s no way they’re not spending billions and developing extreme tools. I mean, they lost their own stealth fighter.
The UK SAS are regarded as THE best in the world, with lots of other special forces being based on them. Poland is buying US tech. Germany is on the right side.
I don’t know anything about militaries, but from my extremely basic understanding of the words armies, the US could supply air superiority. The British could probably infiltrate extremely well, as well as a ton of other EU special forces. I mean, one of them accidentally avoided the rest of their military for, I can’t remember hoe ling, and it probably wouldn’t take all that long to find where Putin is hiding.
On a closing note, it was supposed to be a 3 day operation. It’s been over a year, and Russia still aren’t sending their best aircraft. And the rest of the world aren’t even handing over their very best tech.
If Putin tried starting WW3, it’s a lose-lose. Either mutually assure destruction, or his people revolt and NATO slides in.
Correction, 3 received
I recall memes similar to this from ten years ago. That’s a throwback.