- Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) 56•1 year ago
The difference is that they think that gatekeeping poor people from services in order to bring costs down for everyone else is valid. I’ve seen libertarians argue that the solution to tuition and healthcare being expensive is to stop helping poor people, because that will drive demand down and lower prices for people who can already afford it. I’ve seen libertarians argue that the solution to people scalping groceries is to let grocery stores price gouge. Their solutions only ever involve helping people who don’t need help at the expense of people who do. Libertarianism is “me, me, me right now now now” dressed up in fancy language. It’s the political philosophy of a tumor.
- SilentFury ( @SilentFury@lemm.ee ) 27•1 year ago
“It’s the political philosophy of a tumor.” Fantastic analogy!
- whofearsthenight ( @whofearsthenight@lemm.ee ) English23•1 year ago
Libertarianism is a great system if you’re using it as a backdrop for a cyberpunk dystopia.
- Heeveho ( @Heeveho@lemm.ee ) 2•1 year ago
You won me over at cyberpunk.
- Vode An ( @Vode_An@lemmy.ml ) 36•1 year ago
“We live in a society” - the jonkler
“Not if I can help it” - libertarians
- db2 ( @db2@sopuli.xyz ) 23•1 year ago
As far as I can tell, the ones with money want a free hand to do whatever they want to others without repercussion, and the ones without money are willfully drinking the Kool Aid and being led around by the nose philosophically.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English2•1 year ago
So Republicans then.
- db2 ( @db2@sopuli.xyz ) 2•1 year ago
I can’t tell the difference. 🤷
- thefartographer ( @thefartographer@lemm.ee ) 22•1 year ago
You ever hear a libertarian complain about flying? Fascinating one-person debate about airlines and deregulation.
- dangblingus ( @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 18•1 year ago
North America has never been a free market. Even since the days of Sumer have there been regulations on commerce. We will never have a free market.
- Monkstrosity ( @Monkstrosity@lemm.ee ) 18•1 year ago
I’m sorry but anyone who thinks we’re actually in a free capitalist system is delusional. The freedom is a lie they sell us to perpetuate the system.
- FaeDrifter ( @FaeDrifter@midwest.social ) English6•1 year ago
An actual 100% free market would be rife with drug and human trafficking.
It’s good to have some regulation, and by and large the US is a mostly free market. You are free to start almost any business you want.
- Novman ( @Novman@feddit.it ) 2•1 year ago
When North Korea has better demographics than all the capitalist countries ( no immigration doesn’t count, it’s cheating ) you have a big problem as an ideology.
- choroalp ( @choroalp@programming.dev ) 2•1 year ago
I dont think ypu can trust north korean reports tho(i am not a libertarian btw.)
- Novman ( @Novman@feddit.it ) 2•1 year ago
It is really difficult to hide people and why?
- choroalp ( @choroalp@programming.dev ) 1•1 year ago
Only thr higher ups live Pyongyang which were most of the photos are taken from
- beteljuice ( @beteljuice@lemmy.ml ) 17•1 year ago
Most “libertarians” are this dumb, but the old school ones at least attribute the problems to uneven regulation rigged in favor of the ruling class, which does jive with my understanding of what is wrong with the financial system. That being said, libertarianism wouldn’t work even if they did get shit straight.
- DrPop ( @DrPop@lemmy.one ) 7•1 year ago
Many years ago a bunch got together and essentially took over a town. Several years later the town got over ran by bears because no one wanted to handle trash properly.
Waste management is a very difficult problem that the entire globe struggles with to be fair.
Not exactly the best example of why libertarians are doomed to fail but you’ve got the spirit
- DrPop ( @DrPop@lemmy.one ) 1•1 year ago
I mean there is more to the story, essentially if you’ve seen wild wild country they did that where they become the majority then decided against public works
- Reddit_Is_Trash ( @Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com ) 14•1 year ago
The market isn’t free, there’s a ton of restrictions and policies that benefit large corporations while making it very difficult for new companies to make any headway against their competition
- BillyTheSkidMark ( @BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee ) 7•1 year ago
You’ve got it backwards. If it wasn’t for the government, regulations and anti monopoly laws there wouldn’t be any new companies, it’d just be one major Corp for each sector.
They still don’t even go far enough tbh.
- irmoz ( @irmoz@reddthat.com ) 1•1 year ago
That’s what free market means
- rumbleran ( @rumbleran@suppo.fi ) 11•1 year ago
The only problem communism has solved so far is obesity.
Why dont you tell us you have a paper thin understanding of communism without telling us you have a paper thin understanding of communism…
I think it’s interesting that people always just jump to “communism is when no food,” like there have been no famines or starvation under capitalism.
Especially when you can note that those problems with food production were basically immediately solved with the extremely deserved death of Lysenkoism.
- AlmightyTritan ( @AlmightyTritan@beehaw.org ) 9•1 year ago
Is there a reason why you chose to be reactionary on the internet today?
This isn’t Reddit, you can be nicer than this, and maybe discuss the point about libertarianism that you like instead of just jumping to a bad faith argument against another economic system that neither OP, nor the post has brought up.
Remember there’s a person on the other side of the screen. Unless it’s a bit of course, but you know better than to take the bait of bots.
- NattyNatty2x4 ( @NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
Because the only alternative to unregulated capitalism is authoritarianism, got it
- iByteABit [he/him] ( @iByteABit@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
He’s reaching for the “it’s not good but it’s the best system we’ve got” from the lib capitalist playbook
- iByteABit [he/him] ( @iByteABit@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
Have you actually read about it from various sources that you cross referenced or are you taking this from your libertarian society that instilled its beliefs on you through culture?
People in Russia and China were much hungrier and unequal before the communist revolution, look it up. Unless you’re talking about Cuba, which the US tried desperately to overturn and starve.
- crackajack ( @crackajack@reddthat.com ) 4•1 year ago
“Anything I don’t agree with is communism!”
- spiderjuzce ( @spiderjuzce@lemmy.sdf.org ) 9•1 year ago
I kept reading that as librarian
Am I missing something that makes the image 18+?
Accidentally clicked nsfw when uploading, my bad.
- trailing9 ( @trailing9@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
What else but regulations prevents the creation of surplus housing? That poverty as a feature post, why are those houses not been built?
It only takes a few people to solve the housing market in a liberal market by organizing the construction. With regulations, it takes a majority to make a change. The same majority who could rise taxes and build affordable housing with tax money right now.
There is land, unemployed people who can do the construction and people with income who seek housing and will pay for it. Who is preventing the construction?
- Decompose ( @Decompose@programming.dev ) 4•1 year ago
So central banks are printing money left and right, controlling the market winners, controlling interest rates, short and long ends of the yield curve, inflation, and my testicles, and you call it a “free” market?
Genuine question. Are you stupid genetically or did you learn being stupid from your environment like every teenager around here who don’t understand shit in the economy?
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 1•1 year ago
Communists irl