I’m going to eat a burger tonight and think about this post the whole time.
If animals aren’t meant to be eaten then why are they made out of food?
Animals are delicious, but so are alot of vegetarian foods too. To try new things i made Saturday vegetarian food day, and ive made some fuckin’ tasty veggies. Fuck veggie burgers or shit like that, but like a pizza with a fuck ton of different vegetables is amazing.
But nutritionally, meat always wins.
you’re made out of food. how would you like it if someone slaughtered you and ate you?
i’m just fuckin’ with you, I eat meat. but this brings up another topic, if we eat the rich, is it carbon neutral?
You do you, hope it tastes delicious!
What if I told you you can both enjoy meat alternatives and meat, that they aren’t mutually exclusive?
You’re right, the alternatives are stupid and even dangerous. 390mg of salt in a Beyond burger, compared to about 90 in a real hamburger. And the pretend chicken is even worse.
Come for the fake meat, stay for the hypernatremia.
Chili does seem like a good vehicle for plant based protein. There’s alot of non meat options that I like, but almost none are “meat replacements.”
Just let it be it’s own thing FFS. What’s terrible as a ““burger”” might be delicious in chili.
This is a good take. You can’t replace a steak with plant based, but we eat a lot of meat in things where it doesn’t matter as filler. Most ground beef recipes can be replaced easily with plant based alternatives with no difference. I know I feel less bloated after eating something with soy crumbles over ground beef.
100% agree. There is tons of delicious vegetarian/vegan food, but vegetarian/vegan substitutions of traditionally meat based dishes range from terrible to just okay.
Carb replacement dishes have the same problem. Spaghetti Squash is delicious when cooked as a vegetable, but throwing Ragu on it and pretending it is pasta is just sad.
If you don’t use extra lean ground beef for chili, and then don’t drain it well during cooking, the fat and grease will tend to separate the rest of the sauce and give it a weird oily texture. The plant based stuff doesn’t have that grease so it’s harder to fuck up. If prepared right the real meat still tastes better. You also have to heavily season it during cooking.
Some of the best chili I ever had was actually made using seasoned ground turkey. Because that’s naturally a lean meat.
Skill issue.
Its not about the skill lmao, I’ve cooked shit tons or chili, with turkey, chicken thighs, ground beef from a local farm, ground beef fresh ground at the butcher daily extea lean. Before i went veg i was close to getting a meat grinder for my kitchen aid, but i started using imitation ground cause it was on sale and it blew all the other proteins out of the water. And I decided to cut meat out for a month to challenge my self as a home cook and haven’t cooked with it in almost 8 months, just because i dont miss it. and if i do plant based chorizo or a plant based ground scratches that craving. Plant based nuggies are also fire.
Cooking shit tons of chili doesnt mean youre skilled at making chili
Agreed, lol. For me, it’s hamburgers. I’ve made hundreds (thousands?) over the years but I’m still very hit-and-miss at it. Sometimes they turn out good, and other times they turn out rubbery or undercooked. Everything else I can cook with pretty good consistency, but burgers are my kryptonite.
Never messed up a Beyond Burger or Impossible Burger though, lol. Those are pretty idiot-proof, at least.
Smash burgers, friend. The easiest best burger you can make.
yup, gimme that crunchy browned goodness over a fat patty any day.
I am glad it works for your tastes, however, I also still reserve the right to say that everyone’s tastes are different and your tastes do not inherently make you superior (as your post seems to feel like). All Im saying is that I have yet to find a “meat replacement” that I actually prefer, and that every bad meat dish I’ve had has only been a result of crap preparation.
INB4
Look at my teeth! I am a carnivorous HUNTER! I stalk the dangerous plains of… Albertsons… with a sharp knife I
forged?bought! at Wal-Mart so I canrundrive home and enjoy memes. Eating meat is my natural state!
I’d buy that. I’ve had amazing vegan and vegetarian chilis from cans, but never anything of the same quality from something with meat.
I just want to take the pepsi challenge on this, if you think your meat-free chilli tastes better PM me that recipe. I’ll give it a honest (omnivore) review.
Just replace your ground beef with imitation meat ground, the texture works so much better, while not effecting the flavor, you just dont need to drain it like the normal meat.
Stop putting fake meat in your food. It’s expensive, farming and processing it is environmentally disastrous, and everyone insists it’s just as good as or better than real meat but they’re always sobbing a little bit when they say it. Either eat meat or don’t.
Is it though? If you’re referring to large scale farming of soybeans - you’re correct. But we use soy as a feed for animals. There would be no need to produce that amount if we were to eat it directly.
People switching to plant based nutrition is by far better environmentaly.
Remember that processing soy into textured vegetable protein costs energy and generates waste. Switching to plant based meat subs is better for the environment. Switching to plants is best.
I completely agree! But I think that it’s easier for families to use those products since it’s an alternative to what they’re already cooking. I prefer to cook using unprocessed plants - but don’t really see a fault in supplying an alternative to meat.
Damn. Now I’m craving a black bean burger.
I think the canned meat chili already is cut with tvp to save money. and everywhere i can find suggests that plant based food is cheaper.
Oh yeah, the people who call vegans “soy boys” eat soy all the time and don’t know it.
Yeah right and meatball smoothies are better than veggies ones.
