- HadManySons ( @HadManySons@lemmy.bond ) English118•1 year ago
Only if you don’t know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.
My negative experiences as an end user take priority over any positive experience told to me by a third party in a usage case that doesn’t apply to me.
- Daniel ( @hai@lemmy.ml ) English32•1 year ago
Most of the time that a site is using Cloudflare you’ve likely not noticed and it has improved your experience.
- taanegl ( @taanegl@beehaw.org ) 6•1 year ago
You’re all circle jerking around the problem. Proxy DNS and CDN’s should be decentralised into standard protocols and not centralised into one company, for what should be obvious reasons (privacy being one of them).
I use CloudFlare on my websites and I feel like I don’t have a choice. The fact that it’s free to use proxy DNS is the kicker here, and the big selling point behind the DDoS protections. But the milliseconds CF DNS and page caching shave off page loads is also dangerous, because now it becomes mandatory if your websites are actually competing against someone else.
Again: this is a single entity, a single point of failure and in effect a monopoly. We don’t just get to use it, we have to use it.
Of course one can’t complain unless one has made an effort to do something about it, like I dunno, make a national version of CloudFlare?
Mwahahahaha! Didn’t like that one, did you?!? Soon that will be mandatory and departments that investigate will honeypot your ass when they need a some justification for taking your in for a little private interrogation… wait, no, GO BACK!!
Okay, so protocols. Hard as fuck, static as hell. Yes? But, decentralised. Si? DNS proxying and content caches are staples of the modern internet. Content go quick, content go real quick ya. All we need to do is figure out a way to facilitate those things without having to rely on a single company, government body or even access to the many nodes that comprise the internet.
We used to write spec, damnit! We must return to the source. I have been some schmuck on the internet and this was my TL;DR.
- 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘 ( @01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ) English3•1 year ago
I don’t like how you say it, but what you say is true. Truth is hard to hear, sometimes.
- Scrubbles ( @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) English7•1 year ago
Your experience as an end user is only available because cloudflare exists. That’s why your end user opinion doesn’t matter, because bad actors are constantly trying to ruin the internet and cloudflare is the gatekeeper. As a server owner I need security at the door to keep our illegal activity. Your opinion of “I don’t like security at the door” is dually noted and immediately thrown away.
“You only know about the bad thing because the bad thing exists” what a compelling argument. Did you know water makes things wet because it’s wet?
- KSP Atlas ( @KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz ) 7•1 year ago
I dont like monopolies, but a world without cloud flare would go down constantly just because a few script kiddies decided to ddos something
- kucing ( @kucing@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year ago
Also made my company I worked for saved ton of money, instead of using other usage-based CDN since we got some ddos for the past year.
The CF Pages and their video encoding platform also ok and easy to use.
- txmyx ( @txmyx@feddit.de ) 56•1 year ago
What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.
- Greyscale ( @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ) English42•1 year ago
Single point of failure for the whole internet.
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn’t actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism
- KairuByte ( @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 45•1 year ago
O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?
Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?
- taanegl ( @taanegl@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
Oh no, centralising DNS and CDN traffic which are critical for the web and the internet into a single company is a bad idea?! Who knew!?!
- KairuByte ( @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•1 year ago
While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.
there is no debate i am always correct :)
- KairuByte ( @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•1 year ago
That is an objectively untrue statement.
you are an objectively untrue statement
- Izzy ( @IzzyData@lemmy.ml ) 26•1 year ago
Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.
- DarkenLM ( @DarkenLM@artemis.camp ) 11•1 year ago
So it wasn’t just me. Good to know.
- gencha ( @gencha@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
I’d claim it’s the other way around until proven otherwise. Configuring the edge is not for everyone
- dill ( @dill@lemmy.one ) 19•1 year ago
Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare
- SnokenKeekaGuard ( @SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 15•1 year ago
203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I’ve ever seen
I feel like I’m making history. A real end user vs tech people conundrum.
- somnuz ( @somnuz@lemm.ee ) 1•1 year ago
Wait… so why is it 69/23 for me?
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English7•1 year ago
Vote federation can be weird
- Destide ( @sirico@feddit.uk ) English12•1 year ago
Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken
Don’t use memes to make decisions I’m just mad I can’t use the discord app on my desktop, can’t download manga from nhentai without jumping through hoops anymore, and have to solve 5 captchas in a row when I use a vpn which is all the time.
- lukas3651 ( @lukas3651@feddit.de ) 5•1 year ago
Tailscale is the way! Have been running it since January, flawlessly.
- Destide ( @sirico@feddit.uk ) English5•1 year ago
I went full rabbit hole and discovered headscale
- lukas3651 ( @lukas3651@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
If you have the skills for setting it up, than that’s the best way to deploy tailscale, the true zero trust method, just keep it in house.
- kubica ( @kubica@kbin.social ) 12•1 year ago
“So you solved the catcha, ok, we don’t care anyway.”
“Solve 5 more because you’re using a vpn.”
- far_university1990 ( @far_university1990@feddit.de ) 5•1 year ago
Cuckflare: host loves it, everyone else hates it
- soulfirethewolf ( @soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id ) English5•1 year ago
I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.
- Chemical Wonka ( @chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ) English4•1 year ago
One more head of Hydra. Espionage System built by the big techs
- primalmotion ( @primalmotion@lemmy.antisocial.ly ) 3•5 months ago
I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here…
Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it’s subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are “nice”. Wow.
Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.
- 57lchlover ( @57lchlover@lemmy.zip ) 1•1 year ago
Considering how I (try) to do bug bounties for money, it’s bad for that, but otherwise, it’d probably be worse without it, considering how it seems a lot of developers seem to totally rely on it for reflected XSS protection.