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cross-posted from: https://radiation.party/post/32518
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They should use Twitter for what it is, not as the main source of information. I’m so sick of it. Use Twitter as an additional channel to promote your stuff, chat with people maybe. But goddammit, don’t use Twitter as the main channel (just like how it was with Facebook years back, spit).
While I agree that using Twitter for your news isn’t cool, if a corp or a politician or someone tweets something on there, their tweet counts as quote and referencing that is an important part of journalism.
I was just over on the r/worldnews livethread on the Ukraine war and the embedded tweets were showing up just fine. I’d actually forgotten about this thread and tried clicking on one for further details, and got the “you’re not logged in” notification.
Ironically, I had a Twitter account years ago that I created purely because something I was doing at the time required one for login purposes. I never used it and I can only assume it was deleted a few months back when Twitter said they were purging “inactive” accounts. I’m certainly not creating a new one now.
actually start doing their fucking jobs as journalists and write out the content of the tweet in their own words.
They’ve got ChatGPT for that now.
Embedded tweets use the Twitter API AFAIK so that should still work.
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I’m fairly sure they do have an API key to embed tweets and likely cache the response to avoid paying more than once for the API call. If you think about it with this kind of system, even a higher than average of 2 tweets per article would be fine.
I’m sure Twitter has figured out some way to charge news outlets for this ability.
start doing their fucking jobs as journalists and write out the content of the tweet in their own words.
if they’d be doing their jobs as journalists they wouldn’t be typing out “tweets” at all, they should be reporting things that matter like the god damn corruption everywhere.
they should be reporting things that matter like the god damn corruption everywhere
No no, we have YouTubers for that. Journalism is for entertainment.
I tried embedding something earlier and Discord wouldn’t show the tweet.
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Because what Twitter really needs right now is less engagement.
They’re trying to juice up their stats for advertisers. More registered users = more surveillance capitalism.
This is hilarious. The biggest inconvenience this will cause, is people asking “can you post a screenshot? I dont use Twitter.”
It is kind of a disaster for emergencies. Twitter is the defacto social network whenever any disaster strikes round here, the sheer volume of people, emergency services and the versatility of hashtags make it great for that.
Which it never should have been in the first place. There should be some kind of publicly funded twitter like clone used for this purpose.
This is also true for breaking news as well. I got better info on 1/6, Belarusian protests, and the attempted coup in Russia than I ever could have reading the news.
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He kind of already has implemented something like this. If you ever try and load a mobile reddit thread in your browser, you’re greeted with a download the app-wall like 50% or more of the time.
it’s better in the app
Better for who?
Reddit’s profits of course
Watching him destroy that site is quite astonishing. I’ve never had an account with twitter. It never appealed to me. Making it a requirement to have an account to even see content isn’t going to convince me to sign up.
Since many companies use twitter as their mouthpiece on the internet. I wonder how they’re going to react when they’re now only able to engage with registered users. I’d be surprised if this works out well for the company to be honest.
Making it a requirement to have an account to even see content isn’t going to convince me to sign up.
He’ll, if can’t even tell what’s on it, why would I want to sign up?
Huffman?
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Well, that makes it even easier to never visit Twitter again. Right now I was sometimes tempted to follow a link and see what it was about, but I’ll be happy to quit that habbit too.
Right? It’s annoying but I’ve seen a few people aggregate news to a bunch of Twitter links. Now they won’t be able to do that and engagement will go down even further.
Twitter users can’t post to the general public anymore. Their posts are visible to users logged into Twitter only. That should render Twitter useless to whoever wants to post something to people on the Internet. I wonder what journalists, companies, or politicians think about it.
Welp, this kills Twitter for me permanently. I closed my account after Mush took it over but sometimes I’d check out tweets and replies my Discord friends would share. Big tech just keeps shooting itself in the foot lately.
These social media giants seem to be self destructing themselves on purpose.
A culture entirely based on growth will do that eventually.
Seriously though, what is causing all of these various media platforms to ramp up the attacks on their users so obviously? Reddit blocking apps, Twitter login-hiding posts, Google shutting down adblockers. Is it coordinated? Does it just make sense to make a rush for money when every company is doing the same?
A lot of the tech companies were slammed by investors over the last two years for missing their earnings and many of them are still struggling to go back to 2021 optimistic growth rates. The layoffs last year have also cost them a lot of their best talent, so the quality of innovation, decision making, and execution has suffered. You are now left with a bunch of older executives who never really understood that it was their younger talent that was the core of their company’s success, so they fall back on older methods like increasing prices and cutting costs to try and lead the board / shareholders into thinking that their ridiculous executive salary packages are somehow justified.
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Man seeing all these big websites kill themselves slowly with poor decisions, kind of gives me hope for the future of the internet. Now we just need facebook to really mess up, and things will be even better.
Right, monopolies crumbling will give space to innovation. No one company will buy up smaller company and then put their innovations behind closed doors, never to be seen again.
Though I doubt google wiill go under for what YouTube is doing. Google is stilll huge and profitable. Most likely it will outlast all of it’s peers from the 2000 dotcom boom.
Twitter, on the other hand, well. It’s on its 9th live and is hanging by the ledge.
Just waiting for Google to decide to kill off YouTube or Gmail for not being profitable or something
That’s certainly one way to begin a social media detox along with Reddit’s idiocy over third party apps. This will make it much easier to ignore Twitter since I deleted my account there and have no intention of signing up again just to view tweets.
This feels like a big milestone in their enshittification journey, and also in the maturity of the fediverse. Part of what made Twitter so widely popular I think is that tweets were available to everyone, not just the few people who were online enough to actually have an account. To lock things behind a wall after so many people have left seems like a bad idea.
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Mastodon might be “better” but it’s in a completely different league if it’s missing 99% people I actually care about following on twitter. On mastodon the feed is just random people talking about their personal stuff and misusing hashtags, and usually when you bring this up the answer is “well duh, mastodon is not supposed to be twitter, it is its own thing”.
Mastodon feels a bit like Twitter back when it was still new, and no celebs or influencers existed. If you had 5k followers or more, you were a big shot.
Agreed. There’s a lot mixed messaging from the userbase where we’re recommended to switch to Mastodon from Twitter but also respect that Mastodon is not supposed to be a Twitter replacement.
It may not be a Twitter replacement, but perhaps it can still fulfill whatever specific needs they’re currently fulfilling using Twitter.
I’m not the best person to judge since I never really “got” Twitter in the first place, but the basic function of “announcing a small piece of text to the world” is shared by a whole lot of different platforms.
Yea tbh i respect it, ive been off twitter for like a year it was just nsfw posting anyway. but people are like “switch from that thing to this thing” then like “why did u expect this thing to be like that thing?!” like ??? Bc u claimed it was an alternative? So no wasnt expecting something so different. Would u expect a sugar alternative NOT to be sweet? If u bought a sugar alternative and it was just straight up salty youd be pretty surpised no? Ya it might not taste exactly like sugar but is pretty close and can be used the same way usually. Thats what makes it an alternative not just something else. I dont mind much tho bc like I said i wasnt even that active on twitter and it was just for posting nsfw not really following ppl or stuff.
it’s missing 99% people I actually care about following on twitter
This is what’s stopping me from really giving Mastodon a shot. Nobody that I care about uses it, except for a few bot accounts that are just mirroring that user’s existing Twitter feed, and they’re not even monitoring those accounts on Mastodon so trying to interact with them is fruitless.
Twitter was just like that a few years ago. If Twitter keeps getting worse, it will not be hard to improve Mastodon to the point where it will be better than Twitter at its own game.
@Hypx @trashhalo @African_Grey @Kaldo I think it also may be worth noting that Twitter is planned to be a very different app in the future, with its migration with financing software and whatnot, it will not be the Twitter that is known now.
So I think that the likelihood of people that will come over to Mastodon, especially because they miss when Tweeting was the primary function of Twitter, will be a steady increase. It will be quite interesting
Thank god. Hopefully Elon Musk will require a blue checkmark to be able to make new tweets.
Can already tell you this is negatively affecting furries. A lot of people use Twitter as a platform for furry art and discussion. Now that Twitter can’t be accessed by the public, furry art can’t be spread as easily theough embed, and this hurts furry artists in the long run.
Actually, more generally this could hurt artists period.
Also breaks nitter. https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/916#issuecomment-1614389399
Huh, in that issue thread someone posted a tweet from the devs stating that it’s temporary, for what that’s worth.
That was the first thing I checked after reading this headline. Sad. It looks like you can still get some pages but they probably aren’t updating.
























