Nice to see a mainstream option de-Googled in the US.
- JustEnoughDucks ( @JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ) English20•1 year ago
Sustainable
No headphone jack
They actually seem like quality phones when my girlfriend’s friend got one, but seriously? No headphone Jack and force you to use wireless buds that will have to be thrown away when the tiny battery degrades?
- amprebel ( @amprebel@lemmy.one ) English10•1 year ago
USB-c to headphone jack converters are an option. Not ideal because you can’t use it and charge the phone simultaneously, but certainly better than those wireless buds.
- copygirl ( @copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English4•1 year ago
Also see their official response on the audio jack removal.
TL;DR:
- Modularity and its influence on the phone’s size and weight
- Market and legislative trends (headphone jack is getting less popular)
- Longevity (less ports = less vulnerable to dust, water and general wear?)
- CrypticCoffee ( @CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee ) English14•1 year ago
Headphone jack getting less popular? I’m pretty sure companies don’t want to include it so removed it from the models and the consumers had to buy that. Consumers aren’t choosing not to have them, they’re choosing phones that don’t have them because Apple and other big companies aren’t giving them a choice.
- copygirl ( @copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English2•1 year ago
If you go by what the loudest ones are saying about the headphone jack removal, then yes, it does give the appearance that it’s a very unpopular change. However if you were to just ask random people on the street if they use(d) their headphone jack and what they think of this change, you’ll probably find there’s not a lot of vocal people out there that would not buy a phone just because it was missing it. That’s why Fairphone did their market research, right? Of course it’s still up for debate whether that was the right choice. And personally I would also prefer if the headphone jack was still default on phones.
- CrypticCoffee ( @CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee ) English9•1 year ago
I try to avoid everything with an extra battery on environmental grounds. Wires for headphone, keyboard and mouse.
I absolutely don’t care what the everyday jack says. Most have been conditioned by their brands. Apple customers will not just accept their decisions, but passionately advocate for them. Samsung will copy Apple and their users will justify it based on that.
This transition was supply led, not demand led.
- onlooker ( @onlooker@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
I have an FP3 and I facepalmed real hard when I saw the announcement. That last reason, vulnerability to dust and protection from water, I find especially dumb. If that’s their reasoning, they might as well remove the USB-C port, too. Fuck it, just make it a featureless plastic brick.
- 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏 ( @lemann@lemmy.one ) English4•1 year ago
Fellow FP3 user, cannot see myself getting a new phone at all in the near future. When this eventually falls out of support I’ll probably go all-in on a custom rom, instead of just rooting.
The FP3 was the closest thing to my previous S5 too, and even then I was giving up some creature comforts like the IR, waterproofing and OLED screen. That thing was ahead of it’s time by a long shot IMO
- XTornado ( @XTornado@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
might as well remove the USB-C port
Well don’t say it too loud, if there is any big improvements on “wireless” charging… I could see the mainline of phones doing it…
- exu ( @exu@feditown.com ) English2•1 year ago
And it would be sold as “less cable waste” while the lower efficiency of wireless charging more than makes up that “cable waste” in environmental impact.
- a8s7 ( @a8s7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•1 year ago
They make usb c headphones and (as much as I also hate adapter hell) usbc to 3.5 adapters. Although, the lack of wireless charging means you’d be choosing between charging and listening.
- Lengsel ( @lengsel@latte.isnot.coffee ) English7•1 year ago
Buy a Pixel phone and flash CalyxOS or GrapheneOS.
- Snowcap7567 ( @Snowcap7567@beehaw.org ) English5•1 year ago
CalyxOS is also available for the Fairphone and you don’t have to give money to Google.
- Zoidsberg ( @Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 year ago
Anything similar for Galaxy phones? I like the smaller size.
- Lengsel ( @lengsel@latte.isnot.coffee ) English1•1 year ago
For flashing Galaxy you have to check each individual ROM if it supports Samsung. The security ones do not.
- Clav64 ( @Clav64@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
I made an error taking on a Samsung galaxy, expecting it to be “well supported in the mod community”. It was the S10 (Exynos edition).
Turned out, in 2020, it was not well supported. And I moved to an even less supported Sony. Then I got a pixel, and now getting a custom ROM for a device released weeks ago is possible.
- ShotLine ( @ShotLine@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
Thank God, finally! Currently on a pixel 5a with /e/OS and I love it, but theyre not very repairable. Ill run with it as long as possible but this, or the FP5 if mine lasts forever, will be my next buy
- xubu ( @xubu@infosec.pub ) English2•1 year ago
replaced Google’s Network Time Protocol servers with NTP Pool Project
In the the context of degoogling and privacy, NTP would seem way down on the list of concerns.
What’s the importance of calling out NTP? Is it just to emphasize the point?
- 001100 010010 ( @001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•1 year ago
I want to get one but unfortunately due to the nature of the phone, there is no resistance to water submersion which is a dealbreaker for me. I want my phones to be at least IP67 which I don’t think is possible while also being repairable.
- nandos ( @nandos@lemmy.ml ) English2•1 year ago
I took a look at GrapheneOS when I purchased my current phone. Loved it for what it offered but the lack of Android Auto & tap-pay support ultimately turned me away - they’re both not supported for good reason but I use them almost daily.
Does anyone know what the situation is with this product? I assume it also won’t support Android auto for the same reasons
- bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) English5•1 year ago
Are you asking about Android auto support on the FP with the first party OS image? Mine came with Android Auto installed
- nandos ( @nandos@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
yes that’s what I was wondering, thank you
- CrypticCoffee ( @CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee ) English3•1 year ago
Just because you use it daily, does it really mean it’s critical? A bank card can just as easily be tapped, and it’s so more satisfying knowing your private data isn’t leaking as much.
I used to use Reddit daily ;).
- nandos ( @nandos@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
Definitely not critical, as I said I’m aware they’re unsupported for good reason. However, both features are a luxury I’ve become accustomed to. I upgraded my car’s sound system with android auto in mind, and I haven’t carried a wallet on me for a few years now.
Aside from that, I’m all for seeing any de-googled tech grow in future
- bbbhltz ( @bbbhltz@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
If this device comes with /e/OS you can hit up Gaël on Mastodon and he might answer.