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  • Lmaydev ( Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 
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    I doubt most people use an adblocker.

    Anyone who’s aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.

    • RT Redréovič ( RTRedreovic@feddit.ch ) 
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      A lot of people do use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users

      You can try other sources as well. The statistics say significant numbers on multiple places.

      • pokexpert30 ( pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org ) 
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        46% global and 27 USA? Damn the us people are even more tech illiterate than I would’ve guessed. I suppose the 85+% market share of the iPhone among teens has something to do with it.

        • LinkOpensChest.wav ( LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ) 
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          Are you really surprised, considering how much our education system gets hijacked by right-wing legislation?

          • pokexpert30 ( pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org ) 
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            Fair.

      • Lmaydev ( Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 
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        I wouldn’t personally call 42% that high and by definition not most.

        • BeigeAgenda ( BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca ) 
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          It’s much better than what I observe with people around me, I would have guessed about 10%

    • Vendul ( Vendul@feddit.de ) 
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      Must be enough to make big companies angry

      • Lmaydev ( Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 
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        I think it’s more that they know most people won’t bother if they make it difficult.

    • Aussiemandeus ( Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone ) 
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      I use duck duck go. The browser on my phone even auto opts out of cookies

    • SuperSaiyanSwag ( SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Which makes this even more annoying. Like you have good chunk of the world using your browser with ads, but you still want even more and are still taking these types of scummy actions.

      • Lmaydev ( Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 
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        I think they’re taking aim at people who use an adblocker because it’s simple and won’t bother if they make it harder than installing an extension.

  • JokeDeity ( JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 
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    The majority of people on Chrome at this point are the same people that only ever used Internet Explorer until like 2015. They aren’t even using Ublock, they don’t even know what it is. The kind of people who have their nephew set their computers up for them.

    • Perfide ( Perfide@reddthat.com ) 
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      How dare you! I AM the nephew that sets up their computers for them, and I install Firefox.

      • JokeDeity ( JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 
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        Good man.

    • dwindling7373 ( dwindling7373@feddit.it ) 
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      And that’s why I set my elders up with uBlock.

  • rwhitisissle ( rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Google when people don’t stop using chrome and just disable ublock:

    :)

    • Darken ( Darken@reddthat.com ) 
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      deleted by creator

      • Gnome Kat ( GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Calling people npcs is total npc behavior

      • stolid_agnostic ( stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Does NPC mean the same as “low value human”? Asking for a friend.

        Also, what a terrible take.

  • Captain Baka ( Captain_Baka@feddit.de ) 
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    Google when people stop using chrome

    Not so sure about that. I know more than enough persons who still like to use Edge (Internet Explorer).

    • chris ( chris@l.roofo.cc ) 
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      The problem isn’t Edge in itself. It is good if there are many browsers. But when Javascript became more than just a play thing, all of a sudden browser slowly moved to chromium as an engine. There used to be Opera, IE, Edge, Firefox, Safari and Chrome with each their own browser engine. Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari and Firefox left. Google is way too powerful with their marketshare. They constantly try to implement features that are bad for users.

      Please use Firefox if you can!

      • SystemNeo ( drbluefall@toast.ooo ) 
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        Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari/WebKit and Firefox/Gecko left.

        {browser}/{browser_engine}

        • chris ( chris@l.roofo.cc ) 
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          I know. I mixed engines and browsers. I was too lazy to find out the engine names of opera, edge and ie.

          • SystemNeo ( drbluefall@toast.ooo ) 
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            Opera had Presto.

            Edge used EdgeHTML.

            IE used Trident/MSHTML.

      • Samsy ( Samsy@lemmy.ml ) 
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        New engines are in test stage, servo, ladybird etc.

        • chris ( chris@l.roofo.cc ) 
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          The problem is that it will take ages for them to get any adoption in a new browser. Firefox used to be a big player and then chrome came along. Now most of the people don’t even try Firefox anymore. I still hear a lot of “Firefox is slow” sentiment even though it isn’t.

      • Captain Baka ( Captain_Baka@feddit.de ) 
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        At least at home and on mobile I absolutely do o7

        • LinkOpensChest.wav ( LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ) 
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          I’ve started using Firefox at work, too. Unfortunately, I still have to use a lot of the Google sites at work, but they all work flawlessly within Firefox and uBO.

    • Lmaydev ( Lmaydev@programming.dev ) 
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      I use Edge at work and it’s a really decent browser. It’s not Internet Explorer it’s basically Chrome with different tracking software lol

      Obviously I use Firefox personally. But it’s actually decent.

      • Captain Baka ( Captain_Baka@feddit.de ) 
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        I also use it at work and it really sucks. I also have Chrome on my work computer, but for everything work-related I have to use Edge. Like E-Mails and Sharepoint-Stuff. Edge’s startup time is at least 4 times Chrome’s startup time. Sites load extremely slow directly compared to Chrome. No Adblockers. I really don’t like this.

        • Jaysyn ( Jaysyn@kbin.social ) 
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          I also use it at work and it really sucks. I also have Chrome on my work computer, but for everything work-related I have to use Edge. Like E-Mails and Sharepoint-Stuff.

          That’s a decision your IT department made. I use Firefox with all of that at work.

          • LinkOpensChest.wav ( LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ) 
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            Can confirm. I also have to use Sharepoint with certain groups, and it works just fine. The web interface for Outlook works just fine as well.

            I also have to use Google at work, and everything I’ve used works within Firefox.

            I think it’s important to point this out because a lot of people seem to be laboring under the misconception that the sites they use will break in Firefox. The only sites I’ve found that don’t work are things like Bing AI, which work fine if you switch the user agent header.

    • Perfide ( Perfide@reddthat.com ) 
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      Edge isn’t IE, it’s reskinned Chromium.

  • galoisghost ( galoisghost@aussie.zone ) 
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    Marty McFly in Back to the Future. Caption. Hey I've seen this one. This is a classic.

  • NutWrench ( NutWrench@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Back before web browsers had ad-blocking extensions, we had programs like Web Washer. It was a local, ad-blocking proxy program that you ran along side your browser. To use it, you just changed your browser’s network settings to point to Web Washer. And the ads would be filtered before they even reached your browser. It would be no problem to implement this again.

    • zagaberoo ( zagaberoo@beehaw.org ) 
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      PiHole is the most common way I hear of network-level ad blocking these days.

  • dangblingus ( dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    The vast majority of Chrome users will continue to use Chrome, as the vast majority of internet users do not use adblock software.

    • Titou ( Titou@feddit.de ) 
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      im not sure about it, they wouldn’t try to ban ublock if it was a minority

      • MiddledAgedGuy ( MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org ) 
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        Random article I found said about 26% of people in the US use adblocking services. Working on the assumption that’s reasonably accurate, that’s a pretty big chunk of ad revenue.

    • tigeruppercut ( tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ) 
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      What platforms does chrome come as default on? I know it’s on google products like pixel, but mac and pcs still have safari and edge, right? What kind of people know enough to get a non-default browser and not enough to get adblock?

      • Bene7rddso ( Bene7rddso@feddit.de ) 
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        Chrome is standard on pretty much all Android phones, and Edge is just Chromium with a skin so it will get this too

  • Radioactive Radio ( radioactiveradio@lemm.ee ) 
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    It won’t do anything to their market share. At work my colleagues keep asking me “Why don’t you use chrome?” or saying things like “Isn’t Firefox slow?”. They simply don’t know or don’t care to know. Also Firefox IS slow or just doesn’t work, not because it’s a bad browser but I’ve been seeing a trend of websites being designed to make it appear slow, like YouTube takes 5 extra secs on Firefox to load videos Clipcham and Adobe outright not supporting Firefox on their websites. The internet is a clown show.

    • stolid_agnostic ( stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I’m sorry, but you work with a bunch of morons of they are harassing you about it.

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    I wonder what is the thought process here, why wouldn’t someone who went the length of installing an adblocker look for other browsers as options?

    • emeralddawn45 ( emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Ublock is so good at being 'set and forgettable I’ve gone beyond just suggesting it to friends and family who aren’t very tech literate, and just installed it for them. I’m sure I can’t be the only one. But these people would likely go straight back to consuming ads rather than try to figure out why their ad blocker stopped working. That’s sad but it’s true.

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      I guess the idea is that if a person is giving you zero ad revenue, then them switching to a diff browser instead of removing ad blocker doesn’t change your equation.

      But if any of them do just turn off the ad blocker it’s a win…

      However I’m not sure if they lose other revenue because they don’t use chrome (like data tracking info)

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    uBlock Origin has a Manifest V3 version, it’s not going anywhere. I swear there are more people not reading anything here than Facebook.

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      Nah, there’s a big difference between what and how much you’re allowed to block in V2 vs V3 - the current status V2 adblock is way outside the range of V3’s version.

      I’d say V3 blockers can probably block at best 30% of what V2 can block. Which means it has to be selective. It essentially nuders the extension, making it worthless - an adblocker that only blocks some ads is not an adblocker at all. It’s more of an ad restrictor, and in heavily monetized sites it might not even be that.

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    And everyone rediscovered Firefox and the world was at ease.

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    We still have maybe two years before they start destrying gmail. I think they’re already itching

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      The IMAP support has been more or less broken since the very beginning. Their custom labels make folders behave in a non-standard way and the IMAP itself is terribly slow compared to every single other provider I’ve used. I used to have dedicated workarounds in my email automation scripts for their weird folder semantics, for even such trivial tasks as actually deleting an email as opposed to merely removing a label from it.

      It’s already unusable as far as I’m concerned.

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      They have done shitty things to Gmail before, such as forced Google+ integration, with backlash as expected. They are shutting down the basic HTML version soon, too.

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        There was talk of changing gmail into some kind of chat view or something, I expect that will be the start

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    I remember when Chrome released and it was a hot mess performance wise. I haven’t used it since and it doesn’t seem like I’m missing anything.

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      The last straw for me was about a decade ago when an update completely broke Chrome on my machine. It would open and immediately crash, even after reinstalling. Everything else worked fine, virus scans came back clean and everything, it was only Chrome. I spent the next 2 months playing browser roulette before settling on ol’ reliable Firefox once again.

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