• The problem is there is a completely different perspective here. I dont want politicians to give people things like welfare not because I hate people, but because I think it turns them into dependents, and I think it actively harms them.

      • Its too big or a job for a politian to manage, it has to be run well at the street level.

        Going to the doctor is a bad analogy, it would be more apt to compare it to someone taking pain medication because their back hurts, and they get hooked on the pain pills, but the reason their back hurts is because they are morbidly obese. We need to go after the problem, not enable the problem.

        • That is true we need to fix the problem. So in your analogy you would’ve stopped giving the person pain medication?

          And how is the person crippled by pain supposed to stand, walk or excercise without pain medication?

          I get it addition to pain medication is bad. I would assume most people know that, even those addicted. But the alternative is those people succumbing to pain, which would prevent any improvments.

          Hence, yes I agree. Just throwing around money is not going to be the solution, but so is also not giving any.