PeerTube is a thing, though it seriously lacks content. It uses WebTorrent, so similar to how more popular torrents end up being faster rather than more taxed, wider use could lead to better stream stability. It’s hard to compete with literally the largest video platform in the world, but there is a world were the tech could give a solid alternative community similar to mastodon or lemmy.
@cupcakezealot@vertelleus Didn’t Vuze (aka Azureus) try to build a decentralized streaming service once? I could see how this might work, if built on top of Kademlia and WebSeeds.
It’s too expensive to host videos for free, but paying fractional cents to different providers is difficult and none of us want to deal with the current ad-financed model either.
YouTube is a very different scale of platform… There’s probably ways that it could be done, and I know things like PeerTube do exist, but… Storing video is expensive, serving video is expensive, transcoding video is expensive… While I’d love to see it, I’d also worry a little bit about the retention of videos over time. YouTube’s video archive is kind of insanely valuable, and it’d be a shame to have it disappear. Not that I necessarily think it’s safe in Google’s hands, mind you, I just worry that people self-hosting video would drop out pretty quickly.
Well, PeerTube exists, but IDK how good it actually is since basically no one uses it. I also think professional content creators aren’t going to like the Fediverse very much since there is significantly less money in it, but for hobbyists it could work. Of all the big social media platforms, video hosting/streaming is the hardest case to replace. It’ll be interesting though. I hear PeerTube works like torrents.
I’d really like one that allows timestamps. The only reason I haven’t taken my own unlisted personal videos off of YouTube is because they’re pretty long and really benefit from having timestamps I can easily click on, and because the video lengths and filesizes are longer than any alternative I know supports. I’d rather have the one big file instead of teeny little separated files. (I have been using YouTube as my video backup service for over a decade now.)
If you know of any private FOSS service even, that is less video sharing and more one-person-video-storage that has this feature I would love to know.
I don’t think video streaming is likely to be viable with a fedi-like model, unfortunately.
Would love to see more creators move to Nebula, though. I don’t think that would work for the casual youtubers I follow, but for the bigger producers, it’d be great.
Anyone hoping there will be a mass exodus from YouTube to other–maybe fediverse YouTube alternatives, reminiscent of the Reddit exodus?
Video hosting is way too expensive and complex to be decentralised.
PeerTube is a thing, though it seriously lacks content. It uses WebTorrent, so similar to how more popular torrents end up being faster rather than more taxed, wider use could lead to better stream stability. It’s hard to compete with literally the largest video platform in the world, but there is a world were the tech could give a solid alternative community similar to mastodon or lemmy.
@cupcakezealot @vertelleus Didn’t Vuze (aka Azureus) try to build a decentralized streaming service once? I could see how this might work, if built on top of Kademlia and WebSeeds.
PeerTube
This. The only real alternative would need a great p2p video protocol and be extremely decentralized.
It’s too expensive to host videos for free, but paying fractional cents to different providers is difficult and none of us want to deal with the current ad-financed model either.
Yea, so who’s hosting the videos and providing the bandwidth?
With peertube it’s kinda all of us.
YouTube is a very different scale of platform… There’s probably ways that it could be done, and I know things like PeerTube do exist, but… Storing video is expensive, serving video is expensive, transcoding video is expensive… While I’d love to see it, I’d also worry a little bit about the retention of videos over time. YouTube’s video archive is kind of insanely valuable, and it’d be a shame to have it disappear. Not that I necessarily think it’s safe in Google’s hands, mind you, I just worry that people self-hosting video would drop out pretty quickly.
Well, PeerTube exists, but IDK how good it actually is since basically no one uses it. I also think professional content creators aren’t going to like the Fediverse very much since there is significantly less money in it, but for hobbyists it could work. Of all the big social media platforms, video hosting/streaming is the hardest case to replace. It’ll be interesting though. I hear PeerTube works like torrents.
I found rumble.com yesterday but I don’t know much about it. It looks like at minimum it has Lofi Girl.
It’s a chud site. I’d avoid it for the same reasons as Gab and Voat.
Yes I hope, but I don’t see it happening. Creators will go where the masses are and where the money is.
I have heard of peertube as a fediverse-based alternative, but I have not heard of anybody actually talk about really using it.
I’d really like one that allows timestamps. The only reason I haven’t taken my own unlisted personal videos off of YouTube is because they’re pretty long and really benefit from having timestamps I can easily click on, and because the video lengths and filesizes are longer than any alternative I know supports. I’d rather have the one big file instead of teeny little separated files. (I have been using YouTube as my video backup service for over a decade now.)
If you know of any private FOSS service even, that is less video sharing and more one-person-video-storage that has this feature I would love to know.
I don’t think video streaming is likely to be viable with a fedi-like model, unfortunately. Would love to see more creators move to Nebula, though. I don’t think that would work for the casual youtubers I follow, but for the bigger producers, it’d be great.
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