- Ion ( @Ion@lemmy.myserv.one ) 59•17 days ago
“I must preserve my echo chamber!”
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 64•17 days ago
I find most people who complain about echo chambers are just mad that they aren’t allowed to barge in everyone’s door and start shouting their bigoted opinions like it’s some moral imperative we all give equal time to all opinions/ideologies.
Are positive, liberal LGBT communities echo chambers? Are they not allowed a collective space to hang out without having to explain themselves all the time?
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 18•17 days ago
It depends. Defederation for good reasons is good, defederation for bad or false reasons is generally bad.
As an example, having a strict and democratic defederation/federation policy has contributed to Hexbear having the most active trans community on Lemmy, and it’s a good thing that there’s an actively protected trans space free from bigotry.
At the same time, defederating from instances for political reasons under the guise of other reasons is generally a bad thing.
It’s largely context dependent.
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 16•17 days ago
Yes. Doing something bad for a bad reason is bad, doing a good thing for a good reason is good.
- Ion ( @Ion@lemmy.myserv.one ) 6•16 days ago
Well that’s definitely your own experience on federated platforms, but I wasn’t speaking to that circumstance. I made a mastodon account and criticized our government’s massive funding of Israel in spite of our lack of critical infrastructure and healthcare and got spammed with “Israel has a right to defend itself, and you 're a trumper if you think otherwise” type comments by people that post one response and then immediately block you. Which is laughable and couldn’t be further from the truth. That is the perpetual echo chamber I was referring to from my personal experience.
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•16 days ago
Ok
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•15 days ago
Are positive, liberal LGBT communities echo chambers
Could be, especially if there aren’t a multitude of sentiments there. That doesn’t mean all sentiments must be present of course.
Are they not allowed a collective space to hang out without having to explain themselves all the time
I don’t think anyone said they aren’t allowed to have such a space.
- Track_Shovel ( @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ) English12•17 days ago
HOW DARE YOU HAVE A MODERATELY DISSENTING VOICE, YOU LITERAL NAZI?!?!
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 22•17 days ago
I’ll take this comment more seriously when literal nazis stop demanding we listen to them.
- Track_Shovel ( @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ) English9•17 days ago
Oh literal Nazis can get fucked. My point is that you can disagree on topics and that health discourse is good
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•16 days ago
Sounds like you’re tilting at windmills in that previous comment tbh
- vorlaut_boy ( @vorlaut_boy@feddit.org ) 5•16 days ago
I’d like to come to your house and take a shit in your bed.
- Ion ( @Ion@lemmy.myserv.one ) 1•1 day ago
Hope you get the help you need 🙏
- vorlaut_boy ( @vorlaut_boy@feddit.org ) 1•1 day ago
Just bring TP, not Hope.
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•15 days ago
There’s moderation and there’s making it into an echo chamber. Seems like a difference many don’t understand.
- vorlaut_boy ( @vorlaut_boy@feddit.org ) 1•15 days ago
seems like nitpicking to me.
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•15 days ago
I don’t know if you’re joking or proving my point
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 55•17 days ago
Of course this is an ML post
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 49•17 days ago
Lemmy.ml is federated with the vast majority of major instances, moreso than others like Lemmy.world. What are you trying to say?
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 20•17 days ago
It’s like yall forgot the entire post/punchline lmao guess folks really do require /s
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 35•17 days ago
Still doesn’t make sense, Lemmy.ml doesn’t constantly threaten to defederate from other instances over political reasons
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 20•17 days ago
It’s just me making a dumb diss you’re overthinking it
- Ion ( @Ion@lemmy.myserv.one ) 15•17 days ago
At least you acknowledge it’s dumb
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 6•17 days ago
Yes that was the intent
- Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 30•17 days ago
Might be good to add an
/s
, considering how common that is on the anti-communist servers.- AVincentInSpace ( @AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ) English10•17 days ago
yunno, on second thought, maybe i don’t want to be using a social platform where communism is the default stance
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 11•16 days ago
The structure of Lemmy itself is built on Communist principles, you’re going to have Communists even if you try to block Communist instances.
- Match!! ( @match@pawb.social ) English3•16 days ago
we could defederate i guess
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English2•15 days ago
It isn’t, but don’t let that stop you from leaving.
- macniel ( @DmMacniel@feddit.org ) 7•17 days ago
Yeah but not by a user from ml
- SteveFromMySpace ( @SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 7•17 days ago
It was a play on the joke/post
- Corgana ( @Corgana@startrek.website ) 35•17 days ago
Why would someone who doesn’t like blocking and de-federation like “federated platforms”?
- hamid 🏴 ( @hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 30•17 days ago
I defederated lemmy.world because I don’t feel like hosting and re transmitting US propaganda.
- flashgnash ( @flashgnash@lemm.ee ) 11•16 days ago
It is kinda surprising how much obvious propaganda makes it onto Lemmy, for example those memes that aren’t really memes as much as “haha this opinion wrong”
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 13•16 days ago
Lemmy itself is largely made up of Communists, Anarchists, and liberals fleeing Reddit.
As a consequence, there’s a lot of Communist agit-prop, and a lot of reflective panic on the hands of liberals.
- goferking0 ( @goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ) 5•16 days ago
The cycle of a specific comm on world
we only allow memes here
points out posts that aren’t memes
stop asking us to follow our rules
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•15 days ago
This is a very political place, even compared to Reddit where there’s a shitload of politics
- flashgnash ( @flashgnash@lemm.ee ) 1•15 days ago
I think it’s just as much a hivemind if not moreso than Reddit. Also, probably way easier to make bots for too
- merthyr1831 ( @merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ) English20•16 days ago
lemmy world admins cracking down on posts they don’t like with no accountability and arbitrarily changing their ToS after the fact to cover for it, but somehow the entirety of the factionalist weirdos who cling to the idea of a corpo-friendly Reddit clone are laying the blame on… other instances?
- goferking0 ( @goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•16 days ago
Users are celebrating them for a learning moment so yeah then blaming others is on brand
- LarmyOfLone ( @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ) 16•16 days ago
I tried like 4 different lemmy instances before settling on lemm.ee because it hasn’t defederated from the socialists or “tankies”. So I can participate.
This defederation fracturing lemmy really speaks to both self-censorship of allowable ideologies and also bad quality of admins and mods several servers.
If lemmy can’t somehow federate communities separately from instances I don’t see lemmy thriving.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 13•16 days ago
Lemmy is thriving enough. Self-sufficient instances like Hexbear are fine without large amounts of federation. I do see Lemmy.world running into issues in the future due to their strong Zionist slant and anti-Leftist stance, but the other major instances seem to be fine.
- Faresh ( @Faresh@lemmy.ml ) English6•16 days ago
I do see Lemmy.world running into issues in the future
I think lemmy.world is already pretty bad. To get away from their posts and comments I’ve considered joining hexbear, since you people honestly have the best content and most wholesome community and aren’t federated with .world, but I also don’t want to be completely isolated from the rest of the fediverse. However, I just noticed there are only 5 instances in hexbear’s blocked instance list and plenty in the linked list. Maybe I didn’t notice how all other instances started federating with hexbear again?
I don’t know what the “allowed” instance list means though.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 8•16 days ago
To get away from their posts and comments I’ve considered joining hexbear, since you people honestly have the best content and most wholesome community and aren’t federated with .world
Make an account, Hexbear is perfect for you. I made a Hexbear account a few months ago and enjoy my time there much more than I do here, there’s far fewer struggle sessions and the quality of discussion is much higher.
I also don’t want to be completely isolated from the rest of the fediverse.
The cool thing about Hexbear is that it has by far the most active userbase I have seen, it’s fully self-sufficient and you won’t likely miss the rest.
However, I just noticed there are only 5 instances in hexbear’s blocked instance list and plenty in the linked list. Maybe I didn’t notice how all other instances started federating with hexbear again?
Some instances have Hexbear blocked on their side that Hexbear doesn’t have blocked, so this can be misleading, however it’s mostly the right-wing instances like shitjustworks, lemmy.world, and lemmy.ca that are of note, and their content fine to drop.
- TheFrirish ( @TheFrirish@jlai.lu ) 4•15 days ago
Hexbear the most wholesome community? I need to wash my eyes after reading that.
Although I’m curious, what itch does it itch for you?
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 5•15 days ago
Have you visited Hexbear? It’s a very wholesome instance overall and posters are very supportive, assuming you’re a Leftist. What leads you to believe otherwise?
- Juice ( @Juice@midwest.social ) 3•15 days ago
Lol when I got banned from a major comm for defending a trotskyist comrade, after two years of participation on the instance, I learned all about the wholesomeness of your “non-sectarian” instance.
- Faresh ( @Faresh@lemmy.ml ) English3•15 days ago
I think a prime example of hexbear wholesomeness is their trans megathreads: https://hexbear.net/post/3363552
They even have a community to help each other out: !mutual_aid@hexbear.net
- TheFrirish ( @TheFrirish@jlai.lu ) 2•15 days ago
I’m genuinely
unsurprised my previous comment got removed but anyway at least thanks for answering and providing an example.- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 3•15 days ago
Anticommunism is generally removed on Lemmy.ml, probably the reason.
- TheFrirish ( @TheFrirish@jlai.lu ) 1•15 days ago
yes it is known that not being wholsome = not being communist.
- goferking0 ( @goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ) 5•16 days ago
And their desire to spin off their own version of lemmy in Java
- LarmyOfLone ( @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ) 3•16 days ago
Wait, what? Where can I read more about that?
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 9•16 days ago
It’s called “Sublinks,” I believe. They don’t trust the spooky scary commies and want to make their own, worse Lemmy alternative, which is silly.
- goferking0 ( @goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•16 days ago
Idk if it’s really to avoid the dirty commies.
Seriously think it’s just them thinking they either know better or just don’t want to learn rust
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 6•16 days ago
They could wait for Lemmy official dev or learn rust, it would take far less time. No, they want control.
- LarmyOfLone ( @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ) 2•16 days ago
Yeah it is thriving, what I meant is that to have a chance to replace reddit, lemmy needs to find some technical solutions (moving / migrating / merging of communities) and somehow stop fracturing into islands.
But maybe that age of the internet has passed and people are no longer willing because of trolls, bad faith actors, sock puppets, bots… and the increasing polarization of ideology and propaganda.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 9•16 days ago
My point is that it doesn’t need to surpass Reddit, as long as its users enjoy using it then that is enough. Using Hexbear as an example, Hexbear doesn’t need any more growth, and is active enough to pretty much fulfill anything it needs on its own local instance.
- hamid 🏴 ( @hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 4•15 days ago
I don’t think surpassing or having anything to do with reddit is valuable. I use lemmy because I think reddit sucks but now I can see how it can be better. For example, I want to disable all voting on my instance, I don’t believe it helps anything and the only reason lemmy has it is because of reddit, there is no algorithm or anything. That to me seems like the worst reason to have something.
- LarmyOfLone ( @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ) 1•15 days ago
Ok I’m just thinking out loud here…
Part of what makes (made) reddit great is that there are so many niche communities. That you scroll through reddit and find something interesting and new and can just jump in and discuss it.
THAT I think we can all agree would be great to grow in lemmy.There is no question that lemmy IS the same social media “mode” as reddit, a link aggregator where users can democratically sort news and articles and topics and discuss things. Lemmy is a clone of reddit, this can’t be disputed. The question is how to make it better than reddit and avoid the pitfalls. Right now moderation and admins are a bit problematic like e.g. the recent vegan clusterfuck.
And yeah for certain subs like vegan you don’t need downvotes since there wouldn’t be too many “controversial” topics. I suspect part of what is lacking on reddit is that there isn’t enough “tagging” on reddit. Like having ways for users to mark a post “funny/silly” or “unconstructive” or “misinformation” or NSFW, NSFL or hatespeech. Besides upvoting. Maybe I’m wrong with this.
But I think over time reddit degraded because the system didn’t support protection against malicious actors. For example tons of meta jokes. Every serious topic has a joke comment on top. You can’t filter them out. That might be a great use of AI like chatGPT for this where the AI learns from the tags and then allows to filter out joke comments. Not censor but allows you to filter out things that can be fun and crass but are not good for long term community. Basically to help moderators.
Of course the current problem is that users themselves have become more and more “post-truth”, not just the fascists but the “leftists”, liberals and centrists too and shout down any dissident opinion because they assume it’s bad faith. Nobody wants to engage any more because they’ve been burned. Maybe that can be reversed if lemmy has the right tools and the community is moderated well enough to “heal”. But again, the admins and moderators are currently the problem on lemmy. Lots of power-tripping and radicalism (and I don’t just mean the socialists lol).
And voting with your feet is also a problem because it leads to fracturing like mentioned in OP and that does have a negative effect. Like the europe@feddit.de community lost 75% of it’s users with the move to feddit.org. I assume similar things will happen to the vegan community now that you moved and people searching for vegan will be confused. Better technical tools are required.
So I think it’s not just about surpassing reddit in numbers, even though at least some growth is very curcial for niches to thrive, but to grow the usability of the software.
Anyway, just rambling / thinking out loud 🙂
- hamid 🏴 ( @hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) 3•15 days ago
Just to tone set, I appreciate the rambling and thinking out loud, I’m kind of doing the same and if I don’t write this intro people might think im mad or am dwelling but really I just want this to be better
for the record, Vegan Theory Club and Vegan Home Cooks moved off of lemmy.world ahead of this by several months because I don’t agree with their philosophy or motivation. Mods and users of my instance were involved but me (tech admin) and Arcane Potato (admin) were not involved at all and to be honest I only sort of know what happened, I’m cooking food and posting about my gardening. To address your last thought first I do not care about fracturing anything, I don’t view my instance as a “lemmy” instance, it is its own website with its own content and the rest doesn’t matter. I’m trying to grow my local communities with local users and the federation is a bonus. In my experience online active forms don’t need hundreds of thousands of people to be fun or interesting, Reddit needs that to sell ads.
There is no question that lemmy IS the same social media “mode” as reddit, a link aggregator where users can democratically sort news and articles and topics and discuss things. Lemmy is a clone of reddit, this can’t be disputed. The question is how to make it better than reddit and avoid the pitfalls. Right now moderation and admins are a bit problematic like e.g. the recent vegan clusterfuck.
Reddit has never been democratic and the votes drive a mystery algorithm with karma scores and the votes themselves live behind a wall of fuzzing that Lemmy does not do. There is also hidden moderation which isn’t possible on Lemmy with the modlog. So there is a lot of cogs in making reddit content viable and it isn’t simply what people vote on. My thoughts is that this is probably for the best if they’re going to have them at all, but makes them kayfabe like WWE Wrestling. Direct democracy as what is occurring now on Lemmy sucks and is basically spam that favors bots and propaganda. In my take moderation and admins are not the problem, it is lack of quality users who are willing to contribute which is the signal and too much noise of douche bags with no ownership or respect shitting all over it. If people want a site to doomscroll while depressed on the toilet, I’m for sure not willing to pay for that. They should just use reddit. One really big and key difference is that I personally own the server it runs on and it is open source software with an open license that I am free to modify.
I think this is important to understand if federated media is going to succeed. We need most people, many of whom already pay subscriptions for spotify and hbo, to pay for and deploy instances. There are already managed service providers that host it for you for reasonable rates. I don’t really think instances should have more than a handful of communities (if any) to avoid large centralized hosts like lemmy.world. Each instance is a collection of only the communities subscribed on that instance or created by one of the users and becomes a personal service for that person or small group of people. You’re right about the fracturing and we see that now but I think that can be solved with multi-comm tags pretty easily. I think we should do more to promote specific communities than instances. For Vegan Theory Club, I really only want to promote !homecooks@vegantheoryclub.org and getting that entire thing out there is the goal.
To be honest I think 100 people per maximum per instance is probably a sweet spot where people who decide to pay for it can keep an eye on all the users and the costs for any one person won’t spiral out of control (~12 usd/month for a hosted container service). I think having smaller instances of accountable users to each other is the end goal and it will take a lot of education, software development and changes to move in that way. To your point I think discoverability for communities is problematic now but this is beta and third party services might come up with something eventually.
- LarmyOfLone ( @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ) 2•14 days ago
Yeah thinking about this, individual servers for specialized topics seems like the way to go. I guess it depends on the type of community. Vegan is large enough but still a specialized community that yeah doesn’t need size. It’s specialized but not a niche.
But other niche communities, e.g. av1, jpegxl or velomobile, are too niche to work without more people. I think.
But it would still be good if you could at least set a community to automatically “forward” to a new instance. And maybe that a community could “export” the posts from existing instance to a new instance. Then you could move or merge. I believe something like that is needed.
- Evil_Shrubbery ( @Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ) 7•15 days ago
Yes, I basically searched for which one is least likely to defederate from random shit.
I’m prepared to traverse seas of horrors to bring home fresh memes every single day (except I sometimes skip alternating Tuesdays if I have to wait for too long to say hi to Reginald).
- Juice ( @Juice@midwest.social ) 3•15 days ago
I’m not sure what’s going on in this comment but I like it
- Evil_Shrubbery ( @Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ) 2•15 days ago
You are in luck:
- Melody Fwygon ( @Melody@lemmy.one ) English11•16 days ago
In aggregate; 5 instances, less than 5 communities, and more than 69, nice, blocked users.
I don’t mess around. I don’t hesitate to block people who argue needlessly, make my experience less informational or less entertaining, troll, or disregard arguments made in foundational logic to push a point of view or ‘win the argument’. Similarly my instance ignores downvotes and does not display them; as with most platforms which behave similarly to reddit; they simply do not work outside of your personal, local account, local instance, user-sorting context.
- Match!! ( @match@pawb.social ) English10•16 days ago
let people defederate idgaf
- Sem ( @sem@lemmy.ml ) English7•17 days ago
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English5•16 days ago
this is so true lmao.
mm yes federated media platform, surely i won’t run into shitty people now
runs into shitty people:
- Steal Wool ( @h3mlocke@lemm.ee ) English5•17 days ago
🥱
- daniskarma ( @daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 4•16 days ago
Everyone likes dialectics and agree that it’s the best method to learn and move the thinking forward… Until they actually met with some antithesis of their thinking.
- Dizzy Devil Ducky ( @AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ) English3•17 days ago
Have yet to personally block any instances. So far I think the closest I’ve come is blocking a spider community because fuck those hell spawns and a Minecraft community or two.
Edit:
Found out there’s more than I remember being blocked. Multiple mc communities, a cock community (, because that stuff ain’t for me and I remember accidentally clicking on one post from there by accident), a pussy community because I don’t come here for porn, a Sintendo community, some bikinibottomtwitter or something similarly named community (you can guess why), and for some reason an xbox community (couldn’t tell you why).
Also, I noticed for some reason I have someone from a different instance that I cannot remember why I blocked. Some guy from lemmt(dot)tf, so I have absolutely no clue since I have no idea what that instance is like, let alone remember anything about that account.
- graphene ( @graphene@lemm.ee ) 1•15 days ago
🥺 not the spiders
- Dizzy Devil Ducky ( @AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ) English1•15 days ago
As an arachnophobe, I personally made it my mission to block that community without looking so I’d never have to see it again. Can’t stand spiders.
- graphene ( @graphene@lemm.ee ) 1•15 days ago
If you have arachnophobia then it’s understandable 😔
- FluffyPotato ( @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ) 3•16 days ago
I prefer if my instance is federated to everything and I can just block what I don’t care to see. Like lemmygrad seems to be some fascist propaganda and hexbear is the same but for people that are underage so I blocked both. Apparently I was permabanned from both without posting or commenting there so it’s not like I can interact with people there even if I wanted to.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 12•16 days ago
Like lemmygrad seems to be some fascist propaganda and hexbear is the same
Lemmygrad and Hexbear are Communists (as well as anarchists in the case of Hexbear), the polar opposite of fascism.
- FluffyPotato ( @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ) 1•14 days ago
They aren’t like any other anarchist I know and I’m in a local anarchist group. Like no anarchist should ever be defending authoritarian governments.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 2•14 days ago
You could try talking to them instead of calling them fascists, there’s a good chance you have no idea what they actuslly believe and are filling in gaps with your own imagination.
- FluffyPotato ( @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ) 1•14 days ago
I tried to understand why they were defending governments like in Russia, North Korea and China but got permabanned for sectarianism.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 2•14 days ago
In the case of Russia, Hexbear largely hates it, they just believe it to be working against NATO. As for the DPRK and PRC, Hexbear defends AES over Capitalist countries, and that includes Anarchists.
It’s impossible to be an Anarchist and side with Western Hegemony.
- FluffyPotato ( @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ) 1•14 days ago
You don’t need to side with any hegemony but defending countries that would and have killed anarchist movements makes you less of an anarchist than one that does defend any western power.
Ultimately advocating for anarchist ideals is more likely to work outside of authoritarian governments so I cannot understand how hexbear can defend those. But then again people vote against their interests all the time so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 2•14 days ago
defending countries that would and have killed anarchist movements makes you less of an anarchist than one that does defend any western power.
Western powers kill Anarchists too, to a greater extent. If you do not understand this, you are not an Anarchist.
Ultimately advocating for anarchist ideals is more likely to work outside of authoritarian governments so I cannot understand how hexbear can defend those. But then again people vote against their interests all the time so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.
Anarchists picking Socialism over Capitalism and Imperialism makes sense
- WldFyre ( @WldFyre@lemm.ee ) 3•16 days ago
That’s why hexbear and blahaj are still federated, right? /s
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 9•16 days ago
What are you on about? Hexbear and Blahaj are still federated.
- WldFyre ( @WldFyre@lemm.ee ) 5•16 days ago
I wasn’t aware they refederated, when did that happen?
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 8•16 days ago
Ah, you meant Hexbear and Blahaj with each other, gotcha.
Hexbear defederated Blahaj and they remain defederated.
- P4ulin_Kbana ( @P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ) 1•16 days ago
Why though?
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 7•16 days ago
Here’s the original defederation thread on Hexbear.
Generally, Blahaj and Hexbear disagree on what constitutes a chaser and thus Hexbear felt that Blahaj was not defending against chasers as well as they should, Blahaj moderators and admins were hostile towards Hexbear users, moderators, and admins, and general friction between the two instances. Additionally, some Blahaj moderators were ableist, using derogetory terminology such as “braindead” to refer to Hexbear users in removing their comments, as well as removing Hexbear users calling out ableism.
- WldFyre ( @WldFyre@lemm.ee ) 9•16 days ago
some Blahaj moderators were ableist, using derogetory terminology such as “braindead”
Honest question, why is “braindead” ableist? I don’t think that the term is used to discriminate against, uh, dead people lol
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 5•16 days ago
Some people disagree, though IMO it is ultimately ableist.
The term “braindead” originates from braindeath, a mental condition, and can also be taken in similar contexts to the “R-word.”