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Stamets ( Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 1 year ago

They have a right to feel smug

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Stamets ( Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 1 year ago
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  • BlackLaZoR ( BlackLaZoR@fedia.io ) 
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    In Poland these are common too. I fail to understand why someone would not install these windows in the first place

    • brokenlcd ( brokenlcd@feddit.it ) 
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      Coming from someone that builds them. At least where I live the mechanism is proprietary so it may not exist for every extrusion profile. Plus for big enough doors/windows the hinges to bear the load either don’t exist or get expensive quick.

      • Damage ( Damage@feddit.it ) 
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        I’ve got an 80cm door with double pane glass (of course) and metal-pvc construction that does this. It’s pretty heavy, it’d have to be a huge window to be heavier than that.

        • brokenlcd ( brokenlcd@feddit.it ) 
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          PVC tends to be lighter than the thermal isolated aluminum we usually use. At least the stuff we have over here. (I work with steel and aluminum though. Never dealt extensively with PVC since it requires specific equipment).

          Usually the problematic ones are the long “strip windows” (80cmx3 to 4 m) that some places use especially with argon filled glass panes (thick, layered double panes. With argon filling for emissivity. It may be what you have as well). But for them the style in the picture is usually set aside for a vasistas style closure. Which has an extra support for the panel. Paired with a pull string opening mechanism. I don’t know what’s the generic name.

          • Damage ( Damage@feddit.it ) 
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            80x400cm horizontal? Those only open via vasistas, you can’t swing around a 4m window lol. I’ve seen those mostly paired with electrical actuators.

            Mine are aluminum frame, steel reinforcements, PVC is only the external layer:

            Check it out. Made in Italy.

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              Those only open via vasistas, you can’t swing around a 4m window lol.

              Yeah. Didn’t think too hard about it, the idea for that project was to segment it and use tilt and turn. But in the end it was kept a singular window And wasistas was used with the string mechanism for commodity’s sake. the change of plans we did made me brain fart… sorry It late over here 😅. still. I’ve made some doors that were too heavy For the tilt and turn hinges we normally use. Mostly due to weird glass pane requirements and sizes. The hinges could most likely handle it. But the specifications said otherwise.

              Mine are aluminum frame, steel reinforcements, PVC is only the external layer:

              That’s similar to what’s used over here. But iirc the aluminium is not in the ones I’ve seen only PVC and steel Reinforcements. Could be wrong though. I’m quite sure is the same company though. That profile looks very similar.

  • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Don’t forget the mode where it’s anchored only in one corner and you freak out because you feel it will fall out any moment despite you know it won’t

    • Axolotl_cpp ( Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Wait what? IS THIS A MODE AND NOT ME MESSING UP??

      • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        It’s one of the things everyone experiences but no one talks about

        • Axolotl_cpp ( Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml ) 
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          I experienced so many heart attacks for that damn thing and now i discover it was just one of the modes 😭

      • towerful ( towerful@programming.dev ) 
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        I feel like it’s a “can survive, but please fix quickly” kinda scenario.
        I have no doubt the mechanism can support it. But used regularly will likely break something (where the entire fucking window falls into your room)

        • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          That’s what they want you to believe

      • MaxMalRichtig ( maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        Yeah! It’s the “you messed up mode”.

    • petrescatraian ( petrescatraian@libranet.de ) 
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      Wait, it doesn’t fall like that?

      • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        No, nothing will ever happen. Don’t worry

        • lemmyknow ( lemmyknow@lemmy.today ) 
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          CHAT, IS THIS REAL???

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            The “ever” is maybe stretching it.
            I think it can survive the occasional mis-opening. But I wouldn’t do it regularly, not leave it like that for a day.
            Like “yeh, you’ve fucked up but I’m fine for now. Please fix me and never do it again” kinda scenario

            • lemmyknow ( lemmyknow@lemmy.today ) 
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              Putting it back in place is kinda difficult, iirc. It’s a scary “oh, shit. Put it back, put it back” moment. It’s a lesson in not playing around wuth the door (ah, yeah, mine was a big balcony door window (small balcony, big door))

  • olenkoVD ( olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Guys, this doesn’t exist only in Germany.

    source: I live in Eastern Europe and we have such superior window design.

    • rustyfish ( rustyfish@piefed.world ) 
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      Können Sie gültige Ausfuhrdokumente für besagte Fenster vorweisen?

      • PlexSheep ( PlexSheep@infosec.pub ) 
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        Lustig aber fick nazis

  • MaxMalRichtig ( maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    My father was a sales & marketing executive for a window company in Germany. You can prepare for a long rant whenever he sees “those dreadful sliding windows” in a TV show from the US or Great Britain. Like every time. 😅

    • socsa ( socsa@piefed.social ) 
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      Me, being smug about how I can have a bookshelf on both sides of the window and still open it fully without a large piece of glass protruding into the room:

      • Noja ( Noja@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        But how can you stoßlüften your room efficiently without opening the whole area of the window?

  • brokenlcd ( brokenlcd@feddit.it ) 
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    Tbf it’s more of a european thing. I’m Italian and I’ve installed hundreds of these.

    Also… Assuming Liftup windows actually exist in America and aren’t just a myth. You.should be able to do something similar by jamming something in the window rail.

    Standard swing windows though… Pray.

  • ThirdConsul ( ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Why is a normal window there? Or does it do something special?

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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    My American windows can also do this if I push hard enough.

  • Son_of_Macha ( Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    We have those windows in Ireland, they are generally made and designed by Velux who are Danish.

  • Mikrochip ( Mikrochip@feddit.org ) 
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    These types of window are great until you want to get AC in a rental & realize that you now need to attach 1-2 hoses to them whilst also getting a good seal. Then you’d actually prefer the American style slide-up windows (ask me how I know) :/

  • TRock ( TRock@feddit.dk ) 
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    The only thing typically missing from these windows, are a hook or latch to prevent the windows from repeatedly opening and shutting when its windy

  • jlow (he / him) ( jlow@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    We have these here in the UK but the mechanism is the other way round, so that it makes to sense 👍

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      1st position detent = tilt (small opening).
      2nd position detent = door (big opening).

      I get that “horizontal handle = door” kinda makes sense… But doesn’t feel intuitive to me

      • Fiery ( Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        It’s just in the direction you would need to apply force to open it no?

  • hddsx ( hddsx@lemmy.ca ) 
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    So if a squirrel falls in the window while you’re gone, it’s stuck there until you open the window the right way?

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      To answer seriously: it is a big problem that if a cat tries to jump through the window and gets stuck there then it can hurt itself badly or even die. That’s why responsible cat owners use guards like these:

    • Akasazh ( Akasazh@feddit.nl ) 
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      The Germans will never be able to tell anyone, as they cannot pronounce the word ‘squirrel’

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        We of course identified that issue a long time ago and set our best poets and thinkers and engineers to solve the problem. They came up with an utterly ingenious solution that is in use to this day: das Eichhörnchen.

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          Oakatzl!

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            Buyer beware, that’s Eichhörnchen at home from Temu.

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    • petrescatraian ( petrescatraian@libranet.de ) 
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      Quite difficult for it to get stuck unless it gets stuck on the edges. If that happens, you can simply lift the foot of the squirrel and it will be released.

      Also, I don’t know the situation in Germany, but here in Romania it’s pretty hard for a squirrel to even reach the top floors of my building.

  • Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I am thinking of airtight windows! No other country can build such airtight and beautiful windows. - Angela Merkel in a 2004 interview, answering the question of what emotions Germany arouses in her

  • Echolynx ( Echolynx@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I love these types of windows. Just need to add some mosquito/bug nets are you’re all set.

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    Am American.

    …What?

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