Negative thoughts flooded my mind. The EU is constantly trying to push Chat Control. They’re blocking bootloaders on phones, introducing ID and face scanning everywhere, in the US they’re trying to push system-level verification, corporations are spitting in our faces and don’t even hide it. I know we have to fight. My personal rebellion was joining Fediverse and Lemmy and quitting Reddit. But seriously, boss—I’m tired. Are our attempts to preserve internet freedom futile? Can we win against corporations and politicians who we pay but don’t listen to us?

  • Just do your part and don’t get discouraged. You don’t have to do everything. Walk the walk, talk the talk. If things don’t work out, at least you tried; that’s more than the majority did.

    Do what you do no because of some expected local or global outcome, but because it’s right.

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    All things that go up must come down. Icarus’ wings will melt from the sun’s heat. The web will crumble under the weight of llm bots. Markets will crash due to llm’s not living up to their hype. Big tech will be broken up. Billionaires and the trillionaire will be taxed to death. Regulators will lose interest. Let’s have hope.

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      Agree, it will get harder to show those the middle finger, but until now there are always nice people which release alternatives to do it.

  • yes, but not in the west, obviously. you’re describing imperialist colonizers as if they somehow should be the beacon against the panopticon? my brother in christ, they created the panopticon. as the empire collapses, living conditions worsen and the crisis deepens, they’ll enforce more and more policies that reveal their true face: fascism. we have a chance, we as in the global south.

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      Why do you think the global south will be unaffected by fascism? If there is a rise of surveillance capitalism and fascism they’ll try to suppress foreign people with other viewpoints.

      • im not saying that it won’t but op is talking about this issue and referencing imperialist countries for hope, they created this, why do you think the hope would be there? i don’t understand what’s the privacy community obssession over ewwrope at all, all of those countries are part of the 3/5/8/16/32 eyes. they are the ones pushing age verification even if some other countries also apply it.

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          Which countries have better privacy protection rights than Europe? The fact is that the shift to surveillance capitalism is basically world wide, but in Europe at least there’s some legal way to push back. In the US the highest courts are broken, in Germany the Bundesverfassungsgericht often stops legislators from making surveillance capitalism worse.

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    I think moving away to decentealised means of connecting is the way. We already have things like Reticulum. If we invent a powerful and robust decentralised way of physical connection (like LoRa or HaLow but better) then we won’t need any corps - neither ISPs nor those that create web services for the ISP based network

    • You are definitely right, but I will caution that people are going to have to get used to a lot slower connectivity speeds and higher latency than we’ve been used to.

      Max reticulum link is 40mbps, tor to onion services is like 5mbps, wifi halo is like 1-16mbps and MeshCore and Meshtastic are like ~20kbps max.

      Centralized internet has gotten us used to speeds of hundreds of megabits per second and latency of 10s of ms, and that’s just not possible when decentralizing systems, at least not right now.

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        at least not right now.

        I think this is the key point. Decentralised alternatives begin as slower and less ergonomic, but over time, when more people use them, they should catch up on the proprietary solutions. The massive transition from Windows to Linux that has been happening lately is a good example of that IMO. It’s only us who can help these initiatives grow after all.

  • Find what and where you can fight best, and throw your weight behind it. Don’t fall into dispair, that’s what they are counting on.

    Some fight for better laws, some fight for better politicians, some hack, some donate, some build, some propagandize, some host and archive, some preach and philosophize.

    The best often do several of these things. Find what you’re inclined towards and do it. We need every last drop of effort to defeat the corpos and their corrupt political allies.

    You can’t stop the signal.

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    Had similar thoughts this morning. I think it’s clear that many countries are going to head down the Great Firewall route; which is now very effective. It’s so hard to bypass and risky that most people don’t attempt to. As more countries implement these measures, and the list of countries/datacenters where people can set up XRay proxies (for example) shrinks, it will be easier to detect and block. I imagine if ad-hoc meshes became popular, then they’d be shutdown too. The problem is more political than technological.

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    But seriously, boss—I’m tired

    Unfortunately, that’s their game plan: be an unrelenting bureaucracy that grinds you down so you eventually just give in and finally accept it as it is now then passively accept what they come up with next.

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      In the US MS send data to AtData (former Towerdata), among others, which use keyloggers and mouse movement logs, because this is irrelevant if you use decentralized networks or even the Onion, they know always what you do and what you post. Because of this is important to desactivate Recall and block coresponding telemetries. Portmaster, PiHole or similar nowadays is mandatory in any OS and network system.

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          Well Linux don’t have recall, but anyway depending on the apps you use (don’t forget that GitHub is owned by MS and for sur certain APIs also in FOSS). Firewalls and traffic monitors like Portmaster also are for Linux. Also Linux isn’t immune against spy- and logger malware.

          To be clear, Windows as most used OS is traditional also the main target of malware, but since nowadays are more and more servers working on Linux (even those from MS itself), the panorama is changing. MS has therefore invested a lot of work in shielding Windows with an efficient sandbox system, secure boot and one of the best AV on the market included in Windows, even protecting against Root Kits.

          While Linux, being less affected, has rested a little too much on its laurels and does not have really effective protection or an AV that deserves the name until today. The risk that malware can affect the system (which is free and easy to substitute) is certainly smaller in Linux, but not so for files and documents, nor for the Boot sector.

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    It’s a mess when the right wing control freaks are in the gov. The only thing a user can currently do is avoiding as much as possible these platforms, using instead eg. P2P for communications (https://otr.to/, https://github.com/michal-wrzosek/p2p-chat, https://mesh.im/, etc.). Because of this and big corps the internet is dying, I see the future only in decentralized networks, I2P or something like this for an communication without a big brother in the middle.

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    Of course we can win against politicians who we pay but don’t listen to us. At some point, this is not democracy anymore, and if this is not democracy anymore, then the people is going to express itself through non-democratic measures. Just saying.

    Until then, we have work to do: convince friends, family, politicians. Expose lobbyist, corporations. Support education, spread knowledge.