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I think it has nothing to do with the reasons they give, they just want to push western narratives of “righteousness”
I’ve been to political rooms in blahaj before and the discussed politics always boil down to anti-conservatism and anti-russian/chinese imperialism,
US imperialism? You’ll be called a tankie and told to stop acting like one to fit in
Israel genocide? You’re regressing the progressiveness of empowering jews, stop being overly antisemitic and using tankie sources
Some political news africa? Turn it about weather or not they support LGBTQ rights yet
Riots in south america? Their governments are oppressing them, also stop using tankie sources
There’s no way they can be this biased by coincidence, i’m not a tankie and i didn’t believe it at first but it’s true, Tankie do carry the burden of always being right!
I mean they just ban everyone who can critically read the media and understand basic geopolitics. Of course the remainder will be imperial core national chauvinists, that’s the default in their countries.
the people I talk to in blahaj, always call out USA’s and isreali imperalism
It’s spurned by liberal admins and mods usually. They can’t actually argue against us so they put their cognitive dissonance into an unhealthy place of self-soothing.
This actually isn’t unique to Lemmy at all it is the default reaction of committed liberals and liberals with thin skin. But when someone feels ownership of a place and like they’re losing legitimacy and control they can lash out.
It’s also important to understand that most people online discussing politics in these forums know basically nothing. They don’t read. They can’t critically engage with media. They don’t question their own biases when presented with people from other cultures. They certainly don’t actually do anything irl that would teach them visceral lessons. Trying to build an organization (not a career in a non-profit), a party, or even just feeding people. They might as well be 10 year olds for all the information contained in their political opinions. But they feel extremely entitled to their positions and wrap it up in their identities. If they are contradicted they feel personally attacked. If they think something despite having never investigated it, they announce it proudly with confidence and bully those who disagree. In short, humility runs counter to their socialization.
Finally, they’re used to punching right, or at least most of them are, and their rhetoric breaks down when they are instead forced to punch left. So they just start namecalling instead, banning, or just trolling, as it allows their egos to escape without much damage.
Luckily, we are looking at an echo chamber of people who automatically self-isolate and can’t organize anything. In the real world conversations are faster and more productive and building things and teaching is much easier, even with an audience that isn’t entirely friendly. Irl people usually can’t get away with acting like such babies.
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Literaly 19684 😔
We know that some people eventually work past their “fuck tankies” stage because we did. Most of us used to believe the same things and for the same reasons, because we grew up under largely the same conditions.
Actually I was never this insufferable.
Yup
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i thought they were anarchists
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Not for long after the Troika liberates them
Anarchists are tankies.
Been gone for a while, did my peoples go tankie?
It’s a shifting target. Tankie has always been a pejorative for those supportive of socialist states, now this has broadened from “support” to “doesn’t fully condemn.”
Ohhhh, I remember you
Can’t say I remember you, sorry 😅
Well that’s just fine, you’re way less forgettable then I anyhow, practically infamous here. We have seen eachother in debates before, good old fashion bout’s of infighting. lol
Haha, fair. I will say, the idea that I’m “infamous” has always been funny to me. A few people really hate me, while most tend to be on good terms. It generally follows the chart in the meme, dbzer0 is okay with me, the 3 more communist instances tend to like me, while those on the opposite side of the iron curtain, so to speak, have a few people that despise me.
Not really but according to the nazi bars everyone left of Kissinger is one.
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196 has a very clear stance on tankies and other authoritarians.
but we’re not willing to allow somebody we so fundamentally disagree with to moderate our community.
I don’t know about you, but /c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone might have an authoritarian problem.
I’m actually hearing there are widespread humanitarian concerns about reports of ideological purges in the blahaj regime.
Been on Lemmy for almost 2 years, that instance and the people who joined it always felt “off” to me, I’m glad I recently set up a Lemmy instance of my own because that de-federate button will likely come in handy shortly.
The moment they openly defended keeping chasers around and sexually tokenizing trans women, I was out. Those lead to a compatibilist approach to integration via internalizing self-deprecation and worse.
The moment they openly defended keeping chasers around and sexually tokenizing trans women
barely related tangent warning:
chasers are thing in most lgbtqia communities and it’s fascinating to me how they’re embraced in the ones i’m a member of (bears, chubs, daddies, mature) and how they’re reviled in most of the trans communities and for the same exact reasons in all circumstances.
it makes me wonder if the way that men and women are conditioned to regard to their own sexuality has anything to do with it.
One thing to consider is that the people you’re describing as accepted are fundamentally already in the in group that is oppressed - gay or bi. Chasers are basically universally cis men treating trans women as a fetish object. The dehumanizing aspect is different when it is in no way self-referential and when the basic identity is what is fetishized.
Another way to think of it is that for a group of people oppressed in their societies, one of the few ways those (cis) societies “value” trans women is as a taboo sexual fetish, often an exploitable one.
This does relate to gender in that these societies are misogynist and treat women’s bodies as available for purchase in one way or another, plus a long ladder up to that actual act - simulation, imagery, drama, etc. The act of “acquisition” is gender biased in the extreme and coincides with the impoverished of women, and not coincidentally trans women. What is the value of a woman?
The misogyny and women’s “value” are what I was referring to when I postulated that it had something to do w societal conditioning towards their own sexualities and it’s undeniable that it plays a part.
What’s also undeniable is that some chasers also get off on the taboos like the chubby chaser encouragers objectify their partners as a taboo (chub) within a taboo (queer).
Also: the Kinsey scale’s behavior metric automatically qualifies those male cis-gendered objectifiers as members of the LGBTQIA umbrella – whether they want to accept that themselves or not
So then trans women chasers seem to be cut from the same cloth as many of the chasers in other queer communities. Yet the latter is still embraced in it’s respective communities the former still reviled.
I could understand if the issue was that the trans chasers are psychologically closeted and it makes them exhibit less than desirable behavior towards their fellow queers; but the same is true for “down low” or “discreet” men and – again – not even “down low” men engender the same level of revilement that is leveraged at the trans chasers.
Certified commie over here, salute to kittenzrulz123 o7
It is impossible for liberal servers to not do this every few months.
For them, legitimacy comes from proximity to their own media, educational institutions, state-produced propaganda, and power structures. Anything that challenges their white / western supremacist outlook gets demonized with “tankie” or “communist infiltration sapping our precious bodily fluids”.
They have no culture of their own
“The evil tankies have taken over Lemmy and our instances are next”
The evil tankies: “Who even are you”
Another case of “anyone slightly more left wing than me is a tankie, anyone slightly more right wing is a fascist” while we all boil in the same real-life-gray-area soup
I just wanna grill for god’s sake!
Shut up tankie /s
Funny how they all talk like 4chan chuds
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they gotta do SOMETHING now that their asset – tesseract – has been exposed. lol
blahaj was on the tesseract blocklist as well though. We even get mentioned alongside dbzer0 and quokk.au in the “bad instances that advocate/condone violence” list in patrick’s rant.
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some turbolib made a Lemmy client that had a hardcoded blacklist of users and instances they considered to be communists
I am aware of the incident. My wife is a victim of the list.
I am not aware by what @eldavi@lemmy.ml means by dubvee is an asset, and what “they” is being referred to. That is what I want elaboration on.One quick browse at my timeline, and you can tell I’ve been following this incident since my comrades informed me my wife was made a punchcard.
ah gotcha, and I’ve made the list myself apparently
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Political compass in shambles
Got blocked from 196 for having an opinion that, although popular, did not align with the mods there so you know what? Fuck 196 and their baby mods. They’ve shown themselves to be little bitch snowflakes so let them be?
Your ban reason is listed as transphobia, I trust blahaj more with that than I trust blahaj when it comes to leftism.
Which is hilarious because I have a trans son whom I love to the ends of the earth. Almost like you can’t judge people from comments online. So yeah, fuck them.
“I can’t be racist I have a black friend!” Like cmon
A few things.
- The parallel is stupid.
- If you legit have a black friend you probably have more than one.
- I also have LGBT friends, have walked the pride parade, fought for them, etc.
- Opinions are like aasholes
- Arguing on The Internet proves both parties are removed
I stand by what I say. The mods on 196/balajahaja or whatever the fuck it is are snowflake babies and nothing of value for me was lost but I’m more that happy to express they are snowflake babies whenever given the opportunity.
The mods on 196/balajahaja or whatever the fuck it is are snowflake babies
I agree with this 100%. i have not dug into whatever comment got you in hot water
Im just stating that being around LGBTQIA people, or any minority, or even being one of these groups, doesn’t preclude you, or anyone, from homophobia/transphobia/racism. We live in a racist ass society. we are all racist. we live in a transphobic society. we are all transphobic. instead of trying to argue why you arent these things you should instead examine why someone might say what you had done or said was transphobic.
Fundamentally I disagree with blocking outside of things like threatening life, CSAM or other extreme things. Doing it for different opinions? That’s a bitch move and sign of a weak person or persons.
You or anyone else can go through my comment history at no point have I said anything destructive to anyone. Regardless it’s neither here nor there. The mods/admins of that instance have shown they are not interested in divergent or challenging opinions. Let them live in their walled garden. For anyone on their instance I would seriously take a second look at their bullshit policies and/or questionable moderation.
My 2 cents.
Edit and on your point of we live in a racist/transfobic society I agree 100%. Maybe it’s an opportunity for the people doing the banning to reflect maybe they need to pull their heads out their asses and realize intentionally removing voices from a room does not make the voices go away. And adult would have asked/talked it out. Dialogue. Nope. Bitch behaviour and block lol
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hoo boy yeah good riddance I’d sayBoth ways I might add. I know I’m better off lol
wait, why did we get lumped in with the communists?
Lemmylibs think you guys are secret tankies because db0 and unruffled didnt support kamala for president
I thought it was because they didn’t like zionists in general
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The tankie caricature is to anti-imperialists what the hippie caricature was to anti-war activists
You didnt, only china is considered communist in the original. You’re on the forefront of the communist aggression, as seen with the arrows, because some parts of the fediverse considers you to be/going tankie, and because the user that was the starting domino for this was a db0 user.
Ill never understand why brainlets try to call /0 tankie given how much squabbling and total idealogical disagreement exists between it and the 3 pretty tankie instances.
You’re left of Hilary sadly you’re a tankie. I’m sorry.
Do I at least get a free T72?
No… You need to work as bot for 1 year and send an application form directly to Putin.
Tankie is a gradually shifting pejorative for anyone that defends existing socialist states. Dbzer0 straddles the line between tankie/non-tankie because the average stance is less a defense of existing socialism and more towards skepticism towards allegations against existing socialism, which then depends on who is hurling the pejorative.
Because you don’t knee-jerk support all of Epsteinland’s vassals and hate all it’s enemies, and that lack of head-empty jingoism is more than enough to land you on the smug imperialist’s shitlist.
Old CPUSA recruitment line from the 1930s: “Wait, you think workers should get paid more, and be in charge of workplaces? What are you some kind of communist?”
Why do they all wanna be aviator glasses horseshoe baldness pocket polo glass of whiskey Cold War dads so badly?
