- /home/pineapplelover ( @pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 29•1 year ago
Can’t you guys tell your MPs to get that shit out of here?
- itsmikeyd ( @itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml ) English12•1 year ago
Oh believe me we will, but we have to wait for them to call an election (likely autumn 2024). They’re roundly despised and they know it. They’re just milking as much as they can before they’re flung out of Parliament.
They’re a disgrace.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English2•1 year ago
Is there any indication that Labour would be any better on this particular issue?
- WeThePilgrims ( @WeThePilgrims@sopuli.xyz ) 4•1 year ago
Very very very little indication they would be better, and I’m very left of center in politics.
Starmer is very suss as far as I’m concerned, I’m not at all comfortable with his purges…if he gets in, we’ll see.
- itsmikeyd ( @itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml ) English4•1 year ago
Idk. Im very pessimistic that this county is capable of any reasonable decision making tbh.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) English2•1 year ago
Which makes you wonder what the point in this bill even is. They will barely get an opportunity to make use of it.
- itsmikeyd ( @itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
They just like swinging their dicks to show they did something.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) English2•1 year ago
Oh, they’ve done things. That’s the problem.
Tell me that pushing this sort of 1984 inspired stuff wasn’t one of the reasons for Brexit.
- 1984 ( @1984@lemmy.today ) 11•1 year ago
It was.
- toastedenough ( @toastedenough@lemmy.ml ) 8•1 year ago
Username checks out
- 1984 ( @1984@lemmy.today ) 10•1 year ago
Yeah sadly. Used to be a bit of a joke, but in 2023… Noone is laughing.
- SokathHisEyesOpen ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
They said tell them “it wasn’t”!
- Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English19•1 year ago
When it isn’t the USA it’s their daddy Britain, ffs.
- Potato_in_my_anus ( @Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml ) 18•1 year ago
Is there anything we can do about it?
- birdcat ( @birdcat@lemmy.ml ) 17•1 year ago
Oh wow, the great UK really seems to love to show the world how advanced they are. Decrypt this then 🙄
Password is only 8 characters.
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
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- freddo ( @freddo@feddit.nu ) 20•1 year ago
Oi M8 do you have a loicense for that Encryption? No? Well then, pay the foine or be branded a terrurist within the Five Eyes. /s
- Blackmist ( @Blackmist@feddit.uk ) 16•1 year ago
Give us the password, or it’s two years in the clink for you me old matey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000
Five years if you look like a nonce or a Muslim.
- jet ( @jet@hackertalks.com ) English17•1 year ago
This is why I’m worried about Signal. Signal is designed as a central service, which means its easy to block/kill. If similar laws are brought to the country Signal operates from then it could be shutdown. Centralized applications are easy to monetize and easy to kill.
- supercheesecake ( @supercheesecake@aussie.zone ) English8•1 year ago
Alternatives that aren’t so obscure you can’t get your family/friends to switch?
- jet ( @jet@hackertalks.com ) English12•1 year ago
Perfect doesn’t have to be the enemy of good. Signal is Good, it could be better. There is a architectural weakness. There will be some other messenger that ticks all the boxes in the future, hopefully they will take what signal has done and continue to improve it.
Signal is the easy for adoption because of the phone number as identity, but its weak because of the centralization. Its currently the best option. I don’t want to spend effort moving normal people to Briar or Session until its absolutely necessary, or those applications improve the onboarding experience.
You can’t send voice messages and videos or any type of file except for photos on Briar. I don’t have a problem with that myself, but it uses a lot of battery power.
- jet ( @jet@hackertalks.com ) English3•1 year ago
Briar is a long way from being generally useful to typical users, but i think its a gold standard example of something that is unkillable.
- ISOmorph ( @ISOmorph@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
SimpleX is the new thing to watch imo. Even protects your metadata while still feeling modern and compfortable
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English1•1 year ago
Simplex chat is the only one I was able to popularize and its based in the UK
- immibis ( @immibis@social.immibis.com ) 13•1 year ago
@igalmarino @privacy it won’t erode encryption worldwide - any more than China did. They’ll just pull out of the UK
- RoundSparrow ( @RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml ) 12•1 year ago
There are so many trends with technology that seem to favor another 1930’s Europe situation. The 1940 film “The Great Dictator” describes it pretty well, and it is sad how much love and compassion seem to be out of favor as people march more and more towards mechanized hate-driven systems of society. I really hope a pro-humanism civil rights movement takes hold, like Martin Luther King Jr’s kind of teaching, but it seems to not happen that a popular person like that comes to the top. Even a Carl Sagan type person with mass popularity to much of what Sagan shared in his books and speeches would be a good direction.
- NecoArcKbinAccount ( @NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social ) 12•1 year ago
UK hermit kingdom speedrun, especially with the rumors of Scotland getting independence.
- Echo Dot ( @echodot@feddit.uk ) 3•1 year ago
especially with the rumors of Scotland getting independence.
Yeah, that’s not how it works.
- Steeve ( @Steeve@lemmy.ca ) 12•1 year ago
Worldwide? No they aren’t. This is clickbait.
- sanpo ( @sanpo@sopuli.xyz ) 13•1 year ago
Sure, the title sounds like clickbait, but the point is: if a big enough player passes these laws, then the other countries may follow.
- TheYang ( @TheYang@lemmy.ml ) 14•1 year ago
yeah, it doesn’t destroy anything on the worldwide scale.
but it weakens.erosion is a rather perfect term for it
- renormalizer ( @renormalizer@feddit.de ) 5•1 year ago
If they force messengers to implement backdoors into the protocol, I doubt they will limit it to UK users. Also, conversations with UK users won’t be private anymore even if the other party is from another country.
Client-side scanning might not be enforced for other accounts but when the infrastructure is there other governments will want to use it, too.
- Steeve ( @Steeve@lemmy.ca ) 4•1 year ago
That definitely won’t happen. Full E2EE apps like Signal, iMessage, and WhatsApp aren’t going to risk the worldwide backlash that would come with implementing backdoor access. The UK market isn’t that big and definitely not worth it, they’d pull out of the UK entirely first.
- renormalizer ( @renormalizer@feddit.de ) 1•1 year ago
I hope they will. My guess is that a nonprofit like Signal will pull out. They have nothing to gain and a reputation to lose. The others will probably comply by implementing some form of client-side scanning.
- michel ( @michel@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
I wonder if it will be analogous to the situation in China. Is an iMessage conversation safe if one party is based in China and their data is stored in data centers there?
- Certainity45 ( @Certainity45@lemmy.ml ) 10•1 year ago
Just two years ago the politicians fearmongered that quantum computers will break every encryption without delay. This bill speaks quite different story.
- TriStar ( @tristar@lemmyfly.org ) English1•1 year ago
They will… when they finally get invented. For now though, law enforcement will have to do annoying things like “following the word of law” and convincing judges who clearly do not understand the national security implications of kids going to the wrong school to give them warrants.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 7•1 year ago
Welp I don’t live in the UK so there is not much I can do. I would encourage any UK citizen to protest this immediately. If it still passes openly break the law to make the UK government into a laughing stock
- ran2wall ( @ran2wall@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year ago
NWO is happening before our very eyes, guys
- honk ( @honk@feddit.de ) English2•1 year ago
No. It‘s the opposite of a new world order.
It‘s the old order doing everything to preserve its power.
- OrkneyKomodo ( @OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•1 year ago
I get the importance, but the global implications are being slightly overstated. It may be the thin end of the wedge in terms that it may lead other governments to follow suit. But all that will happen in the short term is that many IM clients will withdraw from the UK. Apple will probably just disable iMessage in the UK.
- paulcdb ( @paulcdb@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
Or we could all just vote for people that aren’t corrupt… or at least, yet!
If you don’t know who isn’t corrupt, vote for independents that understand technology. I know it’ll never happen so things will continue to go downhill but gees, what do governments have to do to get people to wake up? 🤬
Hell, i’ll be happy if people just stopped believing ‘for the sack of the children’ crap and realise its all about controlling the population! 🙄🤦♂️
- RoundSparrow ( @RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
we could all just vote for people that aren’t corrupt
Audiences who flock to liars and deceivers seems to be trending in bad direction. Business leaders, politicians. What Cambridge Analytica unleashed as mass psychology tactics in 2014 may be very difficult to undo.
corrupt… or at least, yet!
Things like term limits seemed to help stop some of the problems of people corrupting once they got into positions of power. But now it seems crowds of more and more people are choosing pre-corrupted, cheering on corruption.
- birdcat ( @birdcat@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
Yea voting is great, but when was the last time the UK had a prime minister that anyone voted for?
- glue_snorter ( @glue_snorter@lemmy.sdfeu.org ) 2•1 year ago
We’ve had four unelected PMs in seven years. (Although TBF two of them did then won elections.)
The answer to your question is Boris Johnson, this time last year.