Systemd apparently. Every time someone brings it up, the thread devolves into a religious flame war.
I’ve never got this either. I’ve been using Linux exclusively for over 4 years, multiple devices, tested dozens of distros, almost all Systemd-based and I havent ever experienced any problems that the anti-systemd folks talk about.
Or at least, they were so rare and minimal that I didn’t notice.
Coming from an IT background dealing with 99% Windows machines and Microsoft products, maybe my bar was on the floor, but Linux has been soooo much more stable and dependable than Windows.
Been using Linux since 2004 and systemd has made my life significantly easier. People bickering about systemd are usually ultra nerds without arguments real people would consider important.
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
I remember in my coding class when the prof claimed the language we were learning didn’t have GOTO, but it also didn’t need it because anything that could be accomplished with GOTO could be accomplished with loops and conditionals.
Now looking back I can’t believe what a tech debt nightmare goto is, and I’m glad I weaned off it.
Startup scripts seem more powerful because they’re code you know will be executed sequentially. For a developer that feels nice.
But a declarative system like systemd is so much more predictable and stable, specifically because it does NOT allow for sequential execution of code.
Once I made that switch I was a fan. It’s so much more predictable and standardized.
Exactly my sentiment. Why would you want something with more moving parts than systemd which is also slower? :D
There are some good alternatives to SysV init.d scripts nowadays which only came to fruition after systemd existed and people noticed it’s possible to write something like this.
I used OpenRC and s6 and both of them worked better and were easier to configure than SysV init.
I agree. Coming from the Windows world, systemd felt quite familiar compared to other components in a typical linux system, I always liked it. It doesn’t really follow the unix philosophy though, so it gets a lot of hate.
F*ck the Unix philosophy, this is Linux, not Unix.
Ditching the UNIX philosophy is a bad idea.
It’s a very useful guideline. There are times when those rules should be broken - systemd may be one of those - but by and large the UNIX philosophy has served us well.
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Was a little bit of a hassle initially to convert various custom init scripts into systemd unit files, but it was worth it IMO. Now the init scripts feel kinda jank in comparison lol.
On a barebones or embedded system I can see a lightweight init having a very big appeal though
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 2•1 year ago
Systemd is awesome. I used to use init.d and was annoyed when I had to learn systemd instead, but once I did I’m so glad it exists. Declarative is the way to go.
I used Linux (and some Unix) before systemd was a thing and init scripts are jank. So much boilerplate and that was before things like proper isolation existed and other more modern features.
I don’t understand why anyone would want that back.
A replacement of systemd with something else would be fine, but please no more init scripts and pointless run levels.
Cilantro and onions. Y’all wouldn’t last a day in Mexico.
Unfortunately I have the gene, but onions are great though.
Abolutely with you. I fucking hate cilantro and I fucking love onions.
For the longest time I didn’t even know what cilantro tasted like. I thought maybe it tasted like nothing to me. The reason for this was once when my wife and I were at a Mexican restaurant, I got some green salsa. I dipped my chip in and complained to my wife that it tasted like nothing. She dipped a chip in and started gagging. She said it tasted like pure liquid cilantro.
One day I was cutting some cilantro for some tacos I was making at home, and I took a big bite. It didn’t taste like nothing to me. I just always associated the flavor with lime because anytime I have something with cilantro, I always squeeze a lime over it.
I always thought that was mildly interesting.
Oh I’m quite aware, tomatoes too.
Every little bit I eat them to see if I like them (or can force myself to) but I just haven’t been able to yet. I really wish I could just get over my dislike but I can’t seem to enjoy the taste.
I saw someone commenting how they specifically don’t like “raw tomatoes”. I was wondering why you’d be eating raw tomatoes to begin with but they just meant like regular tomatoes, ones you haven’t cooked since for them the cooked ones were the norm. And it had so many people agreeing with them about how “raw tomatoes” are disgusting.
It’s a weird world out there.
I also don’t like raw tomatoes, but cooked ones are okay.
I’d interpret ‘regular tomatoes’ as something non-heirloom.
I’d call “raw” tomatoes, as in regular eatable ones as just regular tomatoes. Raw to me sounds like unripe. While prepared, I guess that is self-explanatory. But I guess that’s more about cultural or language differences.
What do you not like about “raw” (I guess it is now warranted since there’s ambiguity, so fair enough) tomatoes? I think they’re the tits! First time I hear the term “heirloom tomatoes” btw.
Pineapple pizza.
Fucking war criminal
Is it much different from other savory food that comes with a sweet side dish? Just as cranberry fits to venison, the taste of pineapple fits the ham those pizze typically are covered with.
It’s not good, fight me
Almost like taste is subjective
For real??? 🤯
The Italians will find you, your days are numbered
Pizza and Toast Hawaii are both nice.
I’ve also had pineapple kebab.
Anything else omelette with pineapple?
I played like 40hours of Cyberpunk 2077 before going on social media. I Thought it was going to get “mid” reviews, but I guess I got really lucky to not hit any serious bugs. Lesson being: If you wanna enjoy a game, don’t look at any marketing materials, and don’t seek out social media about it until you’ve had time to form your own opinions.
I read reviews before buying on day 2, basically. Sure, I expected some bugs, as the reviewers warned. I barely got any, just some visual glitches during cutscenes. Still, I would give the game a solid 8/10.
Came out of my playthrough to everyone raging about everything about the game. Couldn’t even give an honest opinion about the game without being downvoted to oblivion because people who never even played the game refused to believe the game was playable at all.
The hype backlash was a serious issue for that game. People expected it to be something it never could have been.
It would be one thing if people were just overhyping things, but a lot of the outrage was over how much they just blatantly lied while marketing the game. They promised a lot of specific things and then released something that was aesthetically impressive but ultimately outdone in just about every other category by sometimes decades old games, and lacked all of the groundbreaking features they marketed.
Personally, even coming back to it much later and trying to enjoy it at face value with all of its updates, it still felt like a boring and shallow GTA clone with a neon glaze. That’s not to mention the fact that it’s still frustratingly buggy.
Yeah I think the same thing is happening with starfield as well. People expected skyrim x elite dangerous x the good parts of no man’s sky and I think that just isn’t realistic. That said I find starfield pretty meh in it’s current state, I am waiting for the QOL mods to stabilize before I play much as I just ran into way too many issues.
My biggest (not only) complaint so far is that entire planets have maybe 8 or 9 species of plants and animals. Hopefully biodiversity mods will pop up. It seems like a decent platform to build future content into.
Might be because they marketed it as such and then the devs failed to live up to the marketing.
I still laugh thinking about how it ran “surprisingly well” on PS4. Lmao
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 3•1 year ago
Cyberpunk 2077 was an incredible game until I tried to drive a car.
I used motorcycles or rapid transit everywhere.
Yeah I hear that’s bad, I hate all driving in video games so it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary for me, I think I drove a car like twice in 150hrs.
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 1•1 year ago
It’s horrible
Same. I played it on stadia and it was pretty stable. When I went to that other site to see what people were saying I was absolutely shocked at the amount of bugs and hate it was getting.
I played it on Stadia, completed it within like two months after the release, never encountered any bug
I borrowed it from a library for a PS4. It was genuinely unplayable if you actually wanted to play it, but for laughing at the bugs and whatnot it was great.
Would’ve been pissed if I had paid anything for it.
There’s this strange resentment the rest of Germany has for Bavaria that I didnt realize was serious until I moved to Hesse.
Antisemite Aiwanger, extensive preventative jail, attempts on dismantling state equalisation payments, lack of secularisation, decades-long opposition to queer legalisation, abortion, social security, asylum in general et cetera
Nah, those are too recent or too political, the resentment feels more cultural. Maybe the CSU fuckery when fielding ministerial positions counts.
Rick Astley. I never really got the point of people getting mad at Never Gonna Give You Up, if anything getting rickrolled is a nice surprise to me.
The original Rick roll was not a happy YouTube video link. It was a JavaScript bomb that you couldn’t get out of. Some people knew how to terminate their browser process, most people had to reboot.
Android
Come to the rest of the world, no problems here .
I use it but often I hate it and random, in my opinion shit, UX decisions that are forced on me.
It is only bad in the sense that it could be so much more, but it certainly is the best we have for phones atm.
Could have just as easily said iOS.
Edit: Though neither surprises me. I totally understand the feelings in either direction.
Polyamory. I knew a lot of people didn’t understand, but the visceral disgust at the idea that a lot of people have is surprising.
I just don’t get it. Having a relationship with one person is hard work (anyone that says otherwise is either very lucky or their partner is making all the effort). Why on earth would you want to make your life even more difficult?
Tbh, my wife and I have been together for so long and through so much that is has become easy. We’ve been together more than fifteen years, and both of us consider our childhoods of abuse to be the hardest periods of our lives. We know and trust each other deeply and implicitly. She’s had an increasingly serious second partner for more than five years now, and it’s become pretty easy. I’m casually looking for a boyfriend, and she’s excited for me. It’s the foundational strength of our relationship that makes this lifestyle possible. We’ve built a big, full life together, and we have enough love and space in our lives to share <3
This is so strange to me. Not the polyamory, the weird hate of it. I’m in a monogamous relationship and polyamory just doesn’t appeal to me. But I don’t really give a shit about what other people do or who they fuck as long as it’s consentual.
No hate from me but two is almost too many people for me. I love my SO, I just have a really hard time being around anyone for any length of time. Different strokes for different folks.
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 1•1 year ago
Here I am surprised that a person is surprised that non-preferred sexual acts would trigger visceral disgust.
I mean, sex is actively disgusting unless your partner just happens to have the right combination of signals to transform it into something non-disgusting.
The wonder is that any sex ever is seen as non-disgusting.
Polyamory is not group sex.
Actually, if you don’t take care of yourself in polyamorous relationships, you might have less sex than in monoamorous relationships.
Also, no, consensual sex is not disgusting. You might not want it, but then sex is not consensual. Bodies are not inherently disgusting.
ehhh bodies are pretty gross. teeth in places mashin up stuff, grimy bacteria in all the folds and crevasses, stinky sweaty fluids and excretions, there’s tons of stuff in the human body that is either conceptually quite horrifying or that we are downright neurologically programmed to be disgusted by. the eroticism of it all really just allows us to look past the disgust and see desire, joy, pleasure. that’s the subjective element.
that dude was dumb for thinking polyamory is a sex act though lol
The wonder is that any sex ever is seen as non-disgusting.
Well that’s what sexual arousal is: that state of being temporarily attracted to that which is repulsive. There’s an evolutionary reason to feel like sharing germs is disgusting, but also selective pressure to come together and do just that (to procreate). So we evolved this impulse to want to do what’s disgusting when we’re horny. But the bell curve of what is disgusting for us varies by person and cultural influences.
I’ve not met many poly groups but my experience was strained. First time meeting these people and the only thing they spoke about was them being poly and how much sex they were having. It was a bit odd for a first meeting with strangers. Not usual dinner conversation I felt.
Snap on Ubuntu. I totally did not comprehend that it was proprietary; I just thought it was convenient, like apt.
Wait it’s also proprietary in addition to being slower, more annoying and much more intrusive than Flatpaks let alone just native packages? That not only makes it heavily obsolete but is even more against the whole point of Linux than Windows’ winget (if the open source community repo is used instead of msstore), as snap is hardcoded to use the closed Servers from Canonical. That’s just bad on another level honestly.
Yeah :/ I just found out about it yesterday.
1991 Hook with Robin Williams. I love that movie, but it seems that most people I encounter that didn’t grow up with it think it’s lame and boring.
So maybe not hate, but not love either.
RUFIOOOOOO
Didn’t realize people didn’t like it.
This is news to me. I was too cool for everything at the time and still enjoyed it.
For those of us who grew up with it, it was amazing! I saw it in the theater on release.
“I’ve had an idea… Lightning has just struck my brain…” “Oh, that must of hurt!”
It’s in that part of my brain that was written before I understood media being ‘good’ and ‘bad’, so my memory of it just is, I’ve never stopped to think about its quality.
Transition Lenses for blocking out sun. So helpful but people think they’re nerdy 🤷 with the right frames they look good imo
Huh?! I’ve only discovered transition lenses a handful of years ago, but once I tried them, I’ve never looked back. I used to have a problem with glare and too much sunlight when out and about. I can’t wear sunglasses either (since I already wear prescription eyeglasses), and thus transition lenses were a great help.
Can’t you buy prescription sunglasses?
Hmm, I haven’t really explored that option. I used to wear contact lenses though, and used them with sunglasses. But I found wearing contact lenses kinda finicky, so I gave up on them. I’ve also heard of those clip-on sunglasses, but along with prescription sunglasses, I find the idea of bringing an extra pair of glasses to be annoying. But then again, I could probably just put them in my bag and forget about them until they’re needed.
But yeah, I’m pretty much happy with my transition lenses that every glasses I’ve had ever since my optician recommended them to me were all transitions. I’m just wondering why they’ve got such hate from others.
Electric Vehicles.
People who hate them have never driven them
fucking despise them, its disgusting that investing in renewables or green only became attractive to governments when it meant sending more money to fucking car manufacturers
Same people who hate anything green because they associate that with being woke, which they further associate with people who want to take their privilege away? Or are there other reasons?
Pineapples on pizza
I was shocked to discover the hatred the old live action Mario movie gets. I enjoyed it when it came out when I was a kid. I rewatched it as an adult to see if my memory was faulty… still enjoyed it. It’s a little campy, but it’s a fun romp! I unironically enjoy it, as a good movie and not as a “so-bad-it’s-good” movie. And yet it gets so much hate…
Me
I don’t hate you, my dear.
Same. I’m surprised when people hate me because I expect to be completely ignored. I have a very mild version of self loathing. I think I’m boring, unremarkable, etc. So, when people hate me (or are interested in me) it surprises me.
